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    What's the story on RSMU? Is it a 6-year program or 4-year? In English?

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    What does it stand for?

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    Russian State Medical University...in Moscow.

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    All official Russian MD programs are for 6 years.
    To define it exactly - all the medical schools in Russia use the same 6-year program approved by the states. So, RSMU offers 6 year MD program in English and Russian langauges.
    Admission will start within a month or so.
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    Russian language for md programs

    Mikhail,
    Why are the schools still teaching completely in Russian from year 3-6? This has gotten some extremely bad publicity for Russian med schools. How can students possibly cope with the ***** of knowledge they need for their future work if they can barely understand the teachers and vice versa?
    Isn't the Russian govt interested at all to improve and get good English speaking teachers and broaden the international student base? I remember the education Minister saying clearly in 2005 and 2006 that 'steps are being taken' to improve security and quality. What has actually been done, can you enlighten us. Saying that students need to know Russian so they can interact with patients is an old exceuse and not a good reply.

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    Mikhail - in my email the "****" - I accidentally leaned on the keys to reach my HP. It has no meaning. Thanks.

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    I think RSMU should provide 6 years English course for foreigners, like Volgograd SMU, and NIzhny Novgorod SMA.

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    Engl medium in RSMU

    Rohania,
    Russian Government as well as the universities is really interested to improve the international students’ base. For instance, during last two years a number of the universities in Moscow finished new hostels for the students. Annually the Government offers about 3,000 scholarships for international students to pay for their study (tuition & accommodation fees) at Russian universities.
    I am not sure having no full term English medium program should result in extremely bad publicity for Russian medical schools [and I am not sure that it necessarily connects to security and quality]. There are arguments pro and against it and it is after the university to decide what to do in this way. As I know, RSMU did not offer 6-year teaching in English to the current students and does not break a promise (this only would get extremely bad publicity).
    I am also surprised why you are writing about “Russian medical schoolS”. There are some schools offering all the lectures and classes in English (including MMA in Moscow). Your son may easily apply for a transfer there. What’s the problem?
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    A good piece of advice about RSMU

    hi to all of you out there!

    I ve noticed that some ppl have interest about the RSMU..
    here is my view on it.. it is not solely based on my personal view, but the common view and what students, friends and residents tell me about it..

    if you are in a hurry .. i ll sum it up for you in a single sentence:

    AVOID THE RSMU LIKE AIDS!!

    that school is definitely the trashiest school in moscow.. and should be avoided by all those that have the purpose to become full-ledged doctors.

    However.. if your dad is a doc..and has a clinic .. and you are the only son/daughter.. and you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO take over daddy s clinic.. although you NEVER inspired to be a M.D. then the RSMU is the right place for you!.. you ll get your MD without having to attend classes.. but youll have to pay the dean or the rector.. whom i believe will keep all your official documents so that they can always ask you for some bribe...

    the medical school looks like the building where they made the movie
    ' SAW'.

    I am describing this in a comic .. somewhat unusual way.. for the only purpose to depict the condition of that school in its most authentic way.

    the classes are run-down.. the building may collapse anytime..
    the dean of foreign students.. is a total jerk..
    let me give you an example that happened to me there..
    i had a friend from Japan that studied there.. and she left the place after 2 years.. she just could not take it.. she once mailed me and asked me if i could get a document from the RSMU stating that she attended 2 years at the RSMU.
    I first asked her why she did not call them.. but then.. that s russia.. nothing can be done on the phone..
    so.. i went to RSMU... which is right behind from PFU.. a small forest separates them.. like the border between heaven and hell..

    i met the dean.. and exposed him the case..
    he told me that she needed to ask herself.. i understood this.. so i brought a document faxed from her requesting the document.. the dean told me that it could be anyone writing this document.. so i asked him for a direct fax number she could mail a fax from japan.. he said that it could be anyone in japan faxing that document.. i then asked for a phone number where she could call from japan.. i suppose you can guess his reply.. and i asked for an email where she could mail..and he said the same answer you could guess..
    so the bottom line was that she was not a student there anymore so he did not have to.. and if she wanted that document.. she d have to come to moscow from japan!!
    anyway .. we ended up making a fake one.. as i stole the stamp in his office..

    the reputation among russian students is that RSMU is an EASY school.. you dont have to study to pass with honors there..

    so if you are motivated and really want to go to a serious place.. dont fool yourselves..or get fooled by some agents..listen to what students say!!!
    the hardest place in moscow is definitely PFU
    good luck to you all

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    So, bp,
    You seem to diagnose and prescribe quality based on how a building looks and because of your sad anecdote about some "person" from Japan who wants a letter of confirmation of her past status (very important document) from a medical school and could not get it via a third party? I feel sorry for you - I sincerely hope YOU are not studying mecidine.

    No dean in his right mind anywhere in the world would just accept your story and give you the details of another person's "history", and in written form!

    In US, NOTHING would be given to a 'friend'. The student must be responsible enough to handle it herself via any one of many modes of secure communication available.

    I suggest you trash Japan, not Russia. You would have been given even worse treatment in Japan! Even if you requested thorugh the Japanese Embassy, I assure you their level of suspicion and poor service borders on paranoia and you would definitely have been given a thorough run around and still, no document would have been given to you.

    I apologise ahead if my next comment does not sit well with you - I mean it in a friendly way-Do be more mature in your writing. It does not reflect well on medical students to write in a shallow manner on the internet public domain and more so to trash any instn anywhere which also houses some truly brilliant students.

    In the final analysis, it is not the instn or the teachers or buildings alone. Anywhere in the world, it is entirely how the student learns and researches and makes the extra effort that counts and how he applies that effort and knowledge on the job that will enable us to contribute the best we can and emerge great. Example: A business graduate of Cambridge, his degree can only open one door, the first door - if he fails and can't perform he would have to manage harder and if he can't he, too, will will join the beggars on the street. So don't simply trash any individual or organisation as you like. Meantime, Happy studying. Regards,

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