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    What is the difference between MBBS and MD?

    Could anybody tell me the difference between MBBS and MD?
    If one has MBBS, is it equivalent to MD?

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    For whatever reason, the educational establishment in the US has a de facto requirement that students possess a bachelors degree prior to attending medical school. They require that this degree contain about 1 years worth of undergraduate pre-medical science courses.

    That is oversimplified. US medical schools will allow exceptional students to matriculate with 90 credit hours but no bachelor's degree. Also, the pre-med science courses generally take more than a year, since general chem (1 year) is a pre-req for organic chem (1 year). Add in the physics, biology, and other pre-reqs and it is a rare bird who can bust them all out in a single year. It happens, but it is far from the norm.

    Medical schools that offer 6 (or so) year MBBS degrees are taking high school students and dumping them directly into this professional degree with no prior experience of higher education. Whether this is good or bad, I can't say for sure, but it would seem to me that American medical schools can have a far higher expectations of their students (***on average***) when they enter.

    The international model for medical schools accepts only the best students coming out of high school, and I dare say that US high schools are woefully lagging behind many high schools in Western Europe, for example. Yes, there is certainly a difference in maturity when you are accepting students at age 22+ vs. age 18, but I don't think that the overall difference upon graduation is that great, at least in developed countries with high medical standards.

    The fact that graduates from other countries have to spend years studying for the USMLEs shows that there is some deficiency in their basic medical sciences education.

    Native English speakers do not need "years" to prep for the USMLE. I think it's quite clear that, in most cases, this appears to be a combination of 1) English fluency, and 2) differences in emphasis during medical school, rather than a blanket deficit in foreign medical education.

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    MD vs MBChB

    To all of you who think that a North American MD is "more advanced" than an MBChB , this is unfortunately typical of many that they think that if it's not American it's not as good. An American MD and a non American MBChB are equal-both are undergraduate degrees done prior to residency which is a postgraduate training. Why do you think you apply to a Dept of Undergraduate Medicine in the USA when you want to go to medical school...check it out.?
    If you think, because you have to write USMLE ,if you are an IMG, that makes you a less well trained person,try getting a licence in the UK to be a General Practitioner straight out of medical school. You can't unless A) you've done PLAB and B) you have completed a postgraduate training program and got a Certificate of completion for general practitioner (FP) . Same for specialists. You've got to have that bit of paper to say you are fit to practice in your speciality (like boards). Your specialist training will be assessed by the GMC and if you are considered adequately trained you will get a licence.
    Try talking to people who are boarded in a speciality in the USA and for whatever reason want to get the Canadian or UK specialist equivalent exams. Many US medical residents fail these exams , because they are are a higher standard. If you don't believe me go to the Canadian forum on valuemd and read. I know this will draw flack, but it's factually true.

    Bottom line I don't think putting down other countries' degrees shows the USA in a good light. There are credentialling agencies to assess these things and by and large an MBChB is equivalent to an MD.
    Just in case you think I have an axe to grind-I am a North American trained MD
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    Not sure what that "link" has to do with anything. Please keep it on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanP977 View Post
    **** Patel PT is correct. The M.B.B.S. degree is the equivalent to an M.D. in the United States. Most Indian physicians (I do not know what rules apply to African physicians) are qualified, if not overly qualified, to be resident physicians in both Canada and the United States. They are not required to do clerkships. Very often, they participate in observerships to remain connected to the medical community while studying for the USMLEs. After passing parts I, II, and III, they are eligible to participate in the NRMP (match). Don't make generalizations about foreign degrees. Just because the names are different doesn't mean they are not equal.
    This is the correct answer. Doctors with MBBS degrees, if wanted to practice in the US, had to appear in a ECFMG test and now they might have changed to USMLEs. Otherwise MBBS and MD are same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drmna46 View Post
    This is the correct answer. Doctors with MBBS degrees, if wanted to practice in the US, had to appear in a ECFMG test and now they might have changed to USMLEs. Otherwise MBBS and MD are same.
    You have some of the right terminology, but it is incorrectly presented.

    All doctors (MD, MBBS, MBChB, etc.) who wish to practice in the US need to pass the USMLE (Steps 1, 2CS, 2CK, and eventually 3), which is a part of becoming ECFMG certified. They also need to match into a residency, but that is a topic for another thread.

    Doctors who earn their MD in the US have to pass exactly the same exams, but they do not use this for ECFMG certification.

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    The main difference between these two degrees is that MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery) is an undergraduate degree, the first professional medical degree which trains students in all medical fields. MD (Doctor of Medicine), on the opposite, is a graduate/post-graduate degree. You are able to get an MD degree only after you obtain the MBBS first. Students complete the MD degree to get eligible for being trained on one specific medical field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callumporter View Post
    The main difference between these two degrees is that MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery) is an undergraduate degree, the first professional medical degree which trains students in all medical fields. MD (Doctor of Medicine), on the opposite, is a graduate/post-graduate degree. You are able to get an MD degree only after you obtain the MBBS first. Students complete the MD degree to get eligible for being trained on one specific medical field.
    Not quite, depends on the country/region. Generally MBBS is 6 yrs after high school and you still do residency. MD in that instance is more of a research degree. In the US MD is 4 yrs after 4yrs undergraduate and then residency. Research is generally incorporated into both in some fashion but required for US residencies.
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