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    Dr E is offline Junior Member
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    Why the drop in students?

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    if you go to the Ross website and click on white coat ceramony it states that there were 139 students in the Jan. class. My Jan class had close to 300 students. Either they are getting highly selective or there has been a real decrease in applicants. Hopefully, they are getting really selective.

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    maybe both

    Dr E:

    I don't work in admissions but if I were a betting person I would probably say that Many of the students in your Jan class never made it to Miami. Probably now that the MCAT's are a requirement Ross wants to make sure that the people they accept have a fighting chance of becomeing Doctors. If Ross doesn't keep a good ratio of passing on the USMLE then they will lose the ability to have student's get the Stafford loans. Also its possible that all the problems relating to malpractice , managed care etc. have eliminated those people who wanted to become MDs to make the really big bucks.

    Again this is just my persona; reasoning. Only the admissions office knows for sure and they probably won't tell.
    When you become my age you will realize all of the hard work and studying was worth the effort.
    "60 years young" another 60 to go if my doctor sons keep me alive with free prescriptions!!

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    as usual, the main office won't tell.

    and the students will speculate and start rumors.

    a vicious cycle.

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    Drop in matriculation

    Quote Originally Posted by singer
    ...Only the admissions office knows for sure and they probably won't tell.

    The reason is because the truth about Ross is out.

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    Singer. I think Dr. E is comparing two diffferent Jan. classes. Furthermore, the reputation of Ross University was for the most part built on the success of many students who never even took the MCAT.

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    Combination of factors

    A few factors led to the decreased enrollment in the Jan Semester, and the university overall.

    1)increased admissions standards (including the MCAT requirement)

    2)increased rate of dismissals (due to the tightening of the promotions policies

    3)More borderline students (those who are in danger of being dismissed, or required to do BMSI) leaving to competing schools in the caribbean with less stringent admissions requirements, and different promotions policies (like AUA in antigua)

    My personal opinion is that this leaves behind a stronger student body on the Dominica campus. All of the changes that have been made since I've begun here in January of 2004 appear to be geared towards accepting and nuturing more serious and more capable students. I think that this will help build up the reputation of Ross in the future as a quality school that produces strong graduates.

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    I cant imagine how an MCAT requirement would have such huge effect on the number of students. Unless if you are saying that many people are detered from applying because they either have not taken the MCAT or simply dont want to. I think that on average people on this forum and other students attending Caribbean medical schools have always, are presently, and will continue to fall into the MCAT bracket of about mid to upper 20's and GPA range of about 3.0-3.3. It is the other extracurricular accomplishments that truly set people apart, especially when you are looking for the more serious student, or someone who is actually not just humoring himself/ herself or his/ her parents by attending a medeical school.

    On the other hand consider that the playing field for some Caribbean medical schools is becoming more and more even. Schools like SGU, and ROSS with already established reputations are starting to feel the strong presence of SABA, AUC, and St. Matthew's, and of course a web site such as this one is an invaluable source of information in relation to good medical schools all over the world. Therefore a viable choice for a quality medical education stems from a much broader selection.

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    admission standards

    I must admitt i am a first semester student and i expected a lower caliber of students at a carribean med schoo. I was extremely suprised to find out the level of students in my class. My class is made up of primarily (90% at least) very motivated, well educated, high calibur students. I have a masters in the sciences already and years of medical experience and thought I would stand out. To the contrary, the students in my class are far more capable, educated, and experienced than I anticipated.
    We were told on the first day that there was 140 in our class and that they turned down 358 people who had applied to the january semester because they were raising the bar on the admissions standards to attempt and produce more capable students. From what i have seen personally I would have to agree with that. I do know that our overall first mini scores were on the average 10% higher than any class that they have had in a couple of years. I would have to say that this is true having talked to students from higher semesters who have conveyed to me their class averages from their first mini. So there is my opinion and what I know, take it for what it is worth.

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    Masters degree, tons of experience, cant spell caliber. I see you spelled it right the first time though, but who am I to judge, right? And who are you to judge anyone that comes or goes to our school. Ross was founded on giving people a shot. They gave me a shot as many of my classmates who you may be working for(or may not - lets face it, you are not off the island YET. Anything can happen. Piss off the wrong local or teacher or whoever and see what happens). We tend to lose sight when we are there and beyond that we are those not given a shot. Let me tell you all something right now, as nice as I can - we are the losers. The lost that could not get into a US school. And yes, there are those who claim that they "could have got into Harvard", or "were accepted to Yale" but chose to go to that hell-hole (yeah, and I have some swampland to sell you), but the fact is that none of us were accepted and were given a shot, and reputation or not SHOULD be given a shot. Ross' rep speaks for itself when you get in the field. if 99% fail the step, Ross' rep will be what it is. A school that produces. It produces those who want and weeds those that dont. We are all in an off shore school, and yes, as much as you may not want to believe it, it matters. If it didnt, I would be moonlighting right now and not sitting at home on call. The first thing out of your peers mouths will be "where did you go to school?". Those I graduated with were morons, as I am one of them. No masters or whatever, but an amazing drive. Dont forget that. Not letting people in hurts the school because it will, and trust me I am seeing it already, create an air of Ross being just another offshore school. We are unique because we turn those with no shot in the world into (and I CANNOT believe I am writing this) residents. Dont pat yourself on the back yet Gingerbreadman. Not yet.

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    Re: admission standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerbreadman
    I must admitt i am a first semester student and i expected a lower caliber of students at a carribean med schoo. I was extremely suprised to find out the level of students in my class. My class is made up of primarily (90% at least) very motivated, well educated, high calibur students. I have a masters in the sciences already and years of medical experience and thought I would stand out. To the contrary, the students in my class are far more capable, educated, and experienced than I anticipated.
    We were told on the first day that there was 140 in our class and that they turned down 358 people who had applied to the january semester because they were raising the bar on the admissions standards to attempt and produce more capable students. From what i have seen personally I would have to agree with that. I do know that our overall first mini scores were on the average 10% higher than any class that they have had in a couple of years. I would have to say that this is true having talked to students from higher semesters who have conveyed to me their class averages from their first mini. So there is my opinion and what I know, take it for what it is worth.
    They actually tell that to every first semester class after the first mini. My semester heard the same thing and the semester before mine and after. It seems you heard it as well. The numbers that you are hearing from other semesters are more than likely the MPS which is no where remotely close to the class average. The real test will come when you take the shelf and see how that compares to other semesters. Different semesters have different profs who ask and teach material differently. This can shift the average a few points in one direction or the other.

    Your class may be capable and educated but some of them need to learn some manners and stop talking in the classrooms where people are studying.

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