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    LqdPls is offline Senior Member
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    Ross vs SMU including more general concerns

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    Why are there so many people complaining about Ross university, but so many good things are being said about St. Matthew's. In relation to residency positions and opportunities after graduation it is obvious that Ross is the right choice. But what about the intellectual and academic environment of each medical school. The last thing I want is to find myself at a University with cut throat competition among students who are supposedly embarking on a journey to pursue a humanitarian career. My point is this, I have a friend who is in his second year at Yale University, and by no means am I trying to compare Yale to any school in the caribbean, but he has described to me that students there are treated with great integrity and respect. There is an intellectually nurturing environment using all means possible by the faculty to shape and mold the minds of fututre physicians. Having monitored the Ross forum for the last few weeks and months it appears that there is a certain uncomfortable feeling of apprehension expressed by both current and prospective students. Current students appear to complain about everything from overcrowded classrooms and poor living conditions to unapproachable faculty with the intent to fail as many students as possible. Prospecive students on the other hand are jaded and discouraged by not knowing what they maybe getting themselves into if they actually decide to attend Ross or any other caribbean school for that matter. But on the bright side after having reviewed the St. Matthew's forum, the same type of negative feedback just doesnt exist, maybe not yet. So what is the final verdict for these two schools? How do they compare academically? What is the intellectual environment of each school, meaning what type of resources and opportunities exist for students who are willing to work extremely hard to succeed, and have come to medical school for one reason and one reason only, and that is to become great physicians. I am not interested in the drama, or the adverse opinions and misleading information posted on this site almost daily. Whether I am acceped into an American medical school or not, I dont want to look at an off shore school only as an alternative. If I choose to attend a caribbean school I want to know that I will be inspired by my institution during my pursuit of a medical degree. I want to be proud of the school that I graduate from, and not spend free time warning others of the possible consequences of attending Ross or any other school. Finally, what is the deal with the faculty at these schools. I realize that they are all well educated with good experience, but do they care about the students or do they simply treat them like rejects placing additional unnecessary obstacles in their way?

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    all those whiners

    you may notice that the number of whiners is quite small, epsecially whne you consider that the class sizes at Ross are quite large. school choice is your choice, but my 2 cents? i am at a university hospital IM residency in the states...we will NOT give interviews to any st matts students, no matter waht their board scores or grades. we have had 5 st matts grads. one was very good. he was teh reason the other 4 got in. those other 4 are the reason that administration has banned SMU here.

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    rowan university

    Check the thread on this site concerning the articulation agreement with Rowan University. I would think a state school with their reputation has done their homework before signing this type of agreement. I understand one of their advisors actually traveled to the school, inteviewed students, and checked on the successes of the graduates. They signed the agreement! I wonder if they would have done the same with ST. Matts, SABA, or most of the others, I seriously doubt it!
    Checking state approvals and where graduates are practicing should answer most questions.

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    No regret with Ross

    U will always find the students who would blame others for their failure but themselves, no matter which school. I was never been a hard working student who study alot, yet I passed all 4sems in 16 months, which tells u that Ross is very fair. I passed step I with good score without prep course would tell u that Ross curriculum is well prepared & geared towards StepI. I owe it to Ross to give me an opportunity to become an MD. Ross students & graduates are well respected in US Hospitals and we rotate along with US med students. Ofcourse, if u could get into US med school, its the best. But out of all carib med school, I chose Ross for their reputation(compare to St Matthew & others), cost (compare to St george, much cheaper), length of the program (48months for St.George), recongnize by US Dept of Education for higher learning (only SGU, Ross & AUC are eligible for federal stafford loans), much more clinical rotation sites(compare to SMU or others), and success of Ross graduates in Residency placements. If all these reasons donot inspire you, Lgdpls, u r out of reality. U may find so called intellectually nuturing environment in other Carib schools or US med schools, at the end of the day, MD behind yr name matters most & Ross can get u there fast Or u could keep looking for school that would provide either way good luck to you. For me, no regret that I went to Ross.

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    it's fine

    Ross is fine. Granted it is only my second semester, but so far the teaching (for the most part) and the treatment I have received from faculty have been quite professional. My performance, at least so far, has been commensurate with my level of effort. The facilities are quite good, especially when you remember where the heck the campus is in the world. My friends and acquaintances are not "cutthroat" in the least. We help each other out with just about everything, including academic stuff, sharing textbooks and review books etc. etc. I have had some depressing days and negative, frustrating moments here so far, to be sure, but I would have those anywhere. Basically, Ross is a challenging, intense experience that is not for the faint-hearted...kinda like being a doctor, I'd imagine.

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    subject

    Thanks for the responses. They're fair and to the point, now at least I have some perspective.

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    Yeah right

    Yes, a one-sided ROSS/DeVry spin stuff
    They both are FOREIGN med schools, a label which you you'll be wearing up untill your residency, and may be beyond. ROSS is not any less foreign than SMU. It may be true that some hospital program may have some reservations about some certain schools. All it takes is one idiot to screw it up for everybody else. And believe me, friend, ROSS sure has a share of those too. But question to ask is if hospital traning program takes a broad brush painting aproach,i.e "they're all like that", and is incapable of seeing you as an individual,then what's next? They may not like the way you look, talk, walk,treat! We've seen that approach before applied to a whole nation...In my humble opinion such narrow-minded places should be avoided anyway,if possible.

    Good Luck to you on your choice

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    Personal Opinion

    In my person opinion, I believe you should go to Ross if you can deal with the high stress of not only studying hard and becoming a quality physician but also the stress of an apathetic and careless administration (administration includes a lot of faculty unfortunately-those in administration have the worst attitudes I have ever seen from any faculty anywhere) and finally a very dangerous island.

    Let me just warn you that DOMINICA IS VERY DANGEROUS. Please compare crime rates also before coming. Ross hides facts from students when it comes to reporting crimes against students. They don't even send warnings. They are supposed to help us, not get us killed. Security situation is horrible.

    If you do decide to risk your life on Ross, then I suggest never to live in any apartment where you have to walk through the bush. Very dangerous. A lot of locals here walk around with machetes, and so unless you know some great self defense you will probably be helpless if attacked. My friend, she was almost raped by a local while she was walking home. Very very very sad. I thank God every single day when I think of what could of happened to her but didn't. I talked to the Ross administration about this and I first asked them to do a teach in about local safety and to increase the amount of security patrols in the immediate area at least. They did nothing. I kept seeing more and more people walking past very dangerous zones at night. Some students HAVE NOT BEEN EDUCATED that Dominica is one of the worst islands in the Caribbean when it comes to crime. They are sometimes told it is "just as dangerous as walking through the Bronx at night". NOT TRUE. I have walked through the Bronx at night, Dominica is a place where you will be dragged into jungle by someone and you will never be found again. I have personally had my apartment burglarized. Also be warned against the fruit selllers of the night. They have been known to burglarize people on a regular basis and have attacked a few people in their own apartment. The SCHOOL WILL NOT TELL YOU ABOUT THIS, even when they know. I talked to them about a guy named ****** "the liar" who seems like a harmless begger. This man is a big time criminal and predator and he walks free amongst us. I learned this from the Portsmouth Police. I only wonder why such a dangerous man roams freely amongst us.

    And unfortunately, there is almost no housing on campus. So you must get used to the fact that the risk to your life is much higher in Dominica and the administration will do nothing to increase local security.

    Just know that you are coming here to become a doctor and save lives, but do you want to lose your life before even getting a chance to save anothers life. Your life is valuable. Choose life. Go to St. Mathews.

    I would have done the same had not been in advanced semesters. I am trying my best to do as well as I can, present the truth about Ross (so hopefully it changes) and finally but most importantly staying alive and safe in Dominica.

    All the best to your life of medicine.

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    huh??

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerMD
    Also be warned against the fruit sellers of the night.
    mmmmm k .....


    Quote Originally Posted by TigerMD
    Just know that you are coming here to become a doctor and save lives, but do you want to lose your life before even getting a chance to save anothers life. Your life is valuable. Choose life. Go to St. Mathews.

    Risk your life coming here? Honestly, the riskiest part of coming here is probably the landing maneuver of the American Eagle flight at Melville Hall. Here's a news flash...the WORLD is a dangerous place. Period.

    I dunno how many, if any, students have died while at Ross, but I do know that many thousands have come and gone from here intact (at least physically). You claim to want a reasonable debate about the issues you bring up, but honestly the tone of that last post was just off-the-scale dramatic and even inflammatory. I'm sure, sadly, that some people have some really bad experiences here, just like some people have bad experiences everywhere on the planet, but the GREAT majority of us get through each day just fine.

    One last thing...my positive comments about Ross are not Ross/DeVry spin...they just reflect my personal experience so far. I'm not ecstatic about being on this island, and I have plenty of unhappy moments here. But Ross itself has little to do with that and I am satisfied with my education so far.

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    asdf

    there are at least 2 kinds of people who post on this board.

    1. the minority who come and talk crap about the school
    2. the people who try to keep the craptalkers in check.

    there are about 2-3 type 1's here, but they post a buttload of negative posts. and that is why it seems like a lot of people are complaining. Fortunately, the bad apples only make up a tiny portion of the student body.

    Ross is like Toyota, and people like tigerMD are lemons. Despite the few lemons, Toyota still makes great reliable cars.


    ......
    Yes. Ross students are in great danger. The natives use machetes to behead students. And they videotape it too. They email the videos to us, and demand that we pay higher rent, or else they will behead more students.

    crap. I'm starting to sound like tigerMD now. I should stop.

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