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    stacy_de_lin is offline Member
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    Approved for MERP. Any thoughts?

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    Hey all. I just got a call from Dr. Clutter that I was approved for MERP in Miami. I'm actually kind of surprised that I wasn't accepted. I have 3.0 overall GPA and a 2.9 science. I wasn't focused at all on medicine in my early college years but had a strong upward curve in my grades towards my senior year, as well as a 27-S on my MCAT. I thought that my later grades and good MCAT score would be enough, as well as my extensive experience as an EMT, experience as a medical assistant, and surgery shadowing experience, but he said they weren't confident enough about my early grades, I guess, so I would need to complete MERP first.

    I applied for the August of 2005 class, and he said that in order to still start in August, I would need to be in Miami to start MERP by April-- since this is the end of January, that seems kind of daunting since I had no intention of getting my house sold and moving and everything else by then. If I wait to start until August, then I begin at Dominica in January, but from what I have read on this forum, it seems as thought it would be nearly impossible and very rushed to match in the same year as the August class, and I am not enthusiastic about rushing through studying for the USMLEs. I'm also not enthusiastic about a whole extra year before staring residency training. Sigh....

    I'm still waiting to hear back from US schools and SGU.

    Please share any thoughts with me! Thanks!

    Stac'

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    think out your options

    stacy_de_lin:

    Based on your post I don't think you will get into an accredited US medical school or even get an interview. SGU is more difficult to get into then ROSS. They also take longer to make decisions. I am surprised that if your four year averag was a 3.0 and Mcat 27 you didn't get into Ross for January or May which normally are easier.

    Not knowing your individual circumstances, if you sell the house what would you do with all the furniture etc. If you have family in the area you may want to rent the house until you are sure that you have what it takes to pass Medical school.
    When you become my age you will realize all of the hard work and studying was worth the effort.
    "60 years young" another 60 to go if my doctor sons keep me alive with free prescriptions!!

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    re

    I agree that US schools are a long shot, but I tried for my local university, so we'll see. The doc who did my interview for SGU said that she was going to strongly recommend me, and that she thought my chances for acceptance were strong, as her stats were the same as mine. But now with my acceptance only to MERP for Ross, I feel a whole lot less certain.

    I am quite sure that I will be successful in MERP-- as I mentioned earlier, my later science grades are strong and my MCAT is pretty decent: verbal 11, bio science 9, physical science 7 (never was good at physics) and writing S, combined with the fact that I think my lower science grades were really only low because I never applied myself then, so I think I should get through the MERP program okay. I was just confident about gaining acceptance to Ross because I had seen such lower scores on this forum for people who gained acceptance. I also know that August is the more competitive class, but I figured the fact that I applied in November of the year before would buffer that.

    Anyway, would love to hear more of your thoughts!

    Stac'

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    asdf

    what is more important to you? time or money? if time is, then go to sgu if they accept you. it will probably cost you $20000 more to attend sgu. Then again, you are wasting money on MERP anyway, with the possibility of not having enough time to make the match (is this true for the january students? I dunno).

    Ross acceptance NOW seems to be as much of a crapshoot as that of US schools. I bombed all my advanced science courses in my undergrad years, but I also made up for it (I guess ) with my mcat score. I had barely any volunteer work other than some crap at a childrens' hospital. I never got to do anything meaningful there. Yet Ross took me in.

    Even with the mcat requirement, 50 (out of ~300) people still managed to flunk 1st semester this last Fall.

    so... who knows.

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    a chance to suceeed

    link626:

    If all students accepted to ROSS would pass each semester either the tests are easy or the number of excellent students not acceppted to the US medical schools is increasing. We all realize that the tests are difficult, the quality of the students accepted is well below the US standards.

    On the other hand 50%+ students pass five semesters in arow and pass the USMLE on the first try. Others repeat semesters or take BMSI and also pass the USMLE. Probably 25% flunk out, leave, transfer etc. These students either had bad study habits, partied too much or couldn't adapt to Dominica.

    If you are accepted and study you will pass and become an MD.
    When you become my age you will realize all of the hard work and studying was worth the effort.
    "60 years young" another 60 to go if my doctor sons keep me alive with free prescriptions!!

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    u might get into US med school if u willing to wait

    Stac,
    I am surprised that u did not get into Ross, may be they want to make extra money or not enough enrollment for MREP and making u take it. U should speak to Dr Clutter again and see is there anything else u can do instead of taking MERP. He is a nice guy. Even if u start in Jan intake, u would match the same year with Aug intake easily as long as u pass all 4sems on time with no BMSI. I started in Jan intake and I m matching with earlier Aug intake. Ofcourse, if u could get into US med school is the best. U might have to do 1yr of post grad work to raise yr GPA, some universities in US even have post grad program for med school. Its worth it to spend an extra yr to get into US school, since yr MCAT is 9 average, even though most US med schools want min of 8 in each area. But if u have to wait for more than 1yr, its better to go to carib school, since u wouldbe an MD much faster. U should also consider SABA or AUC. SABA has decent reputation, but has no stafford loans, but cheaper than Ross or AUC. To me, St George is too expensive and take more time, and in the end, All FMGs are treated the same no matter where they went. I wish u good luck.

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    View from the MERP side

    Stac',

    You and I have almost the exact same GPA, MCAT (even the preakdown was the same) and experience...and I am in MERP. There are people here with better stats than you and me. Merp is a chance for you to prove yourself. For everyone accepted to MERP, there are 3-4 applicants who get a flat out NO. I know what it feels like to be frustrated at getting into MERP, but overall, I wouldn't have traded this experience for anything. I have no doubt that I am by far a better medical school student now than I would have been if I would have gone straight to the island. I'll break it down for you:

    Cost: the tuition is around 10,000 (which is comparable to a semester on the island) and I know that everyone has said "$22,000-my god!" But the reality is Ross recommends that you take a 22,000 dollar loan to cover living expenses as well as tuition. Now Miami IS expensive, and if you tried, you probably COULD spend 12,000 on living for the 15 weeks you're here, but it would take some REAL effort. I took the loan, but I am not going to even come close to spending it all.

    Classes: What we take is not remedial or med school for dummies. Medical Microbiology. Medical Biochem. Immunology/Histology. Human Physiology. These courses are challenging and will give a HUGE foundation on which to build when we get to the island.

    MERP trains you to study hard, and helps you build relationships before you go to the island. Overall, it REALLY will make the transition to Dominica easier in almost every way. The question is, how badly do you want medical school? Are you going to let one hurdle get in your way? Do you really want to go back and take post-grad courses that probably, in the long run won't help you get into med school anyway? MERP is not a defeat...it's an OPPORTUNITY. Good luck, and remember-the people who fight to achieve a goal will appreciate it so much more when they finally get there.

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    The original poster got into SGU.

    It it telling that this whole application process is a huge freaking crap shoot!!

    Merp at Ross and MD program at SGU....WEIRD!

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    Admissions Standards

    These forums serve a good purpose in that they allow students who are unsure about Caribbean schools to get questions answered and comforted from some of their fears. Many of the answers they get are fact based but many of the things perpetuated on these forums are based on "how things used to be" -- but no longer are.

    For example, when I was a prospect I heard that students at Ross were cut-throat, that everybody with a VISA (the plastic kind) was accepted, and that a HUGE number of students were filtered out in first semester. The truth is that I never saw a cut-throat student in Dominica and everybody I knew worked together. The truth is that while some students do fail a class or two, few drop out because of failure, and most go on to get off the island and pass step 1 without much problem. The DeVry execs have decided to raise the bar for admission to Ross. For a while the enrollment decreased because of this, but I think overall it has caused a improvement in the applicant pool and now enrollment is back up.

    SGU appears to have one of the best reputations of Caribbean schools and was traditionally the most difficult to get into. However, about two years ago they started accepting larger classes (larger than a single class at Ross). The easiest way to accept larger classes is to lower your acceptance standards (not that I know they did this). Interestingly on the SGU website under the accepted students stats section the bar graph seems to show students with MCAT scores as low as 7 TOTAL. They also started promotional programs where they pay an accepted student to visit the island, which could be a sign (but not necessarily is) of slacking applications. It could also be the sign that they want a more informed and prepared matriculating student...

    Don't misunderstand what I am saying -- I feel that SGU is a great medical school and has a TON of great students and physicians as alumni. However, while before you never saw (or heard of) a student get accepted to SGU that wasn't accepted to Ross I have started seeing that somewhat more recently. I'm simply pointing out the perceived misconceptions that are perpetuated here that may not be true any more.

    -M

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainInsaneO
    The original poster got into SGU.

    It it telling that this whole application process is a huge freaking crap shoot!!

    Merp at Ross and MD program at SGU....WEIRD!
    MitchDC/MD
    RUSM 2006 Graduate

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    wow...with those stats theres no way you wouldnt get into SGU

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