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Thread: Looking for students defrauded by forprofit, caribbean schools (Ross, AUC, AUA & SGU)

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    Looking for students defrauded by forprofit, caribbean schools (Ross, AUC, AUA & SGU)

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    Hi,

    I'm looking to get in touch with U.S. students -- either former or current -- who pursued M.D. programs at any the following schools: Ross University School of Medicine (RUSM), American University of the Caribbean (AUC), St. George's University School of Medicine (SGU), or American University of Antigua (AUA).

    In particular, I'm interested in hearing from any students who have felt defrauded or misled by these schools. So anyone who failed out of the program, or was dismissed unfairly or unable to obtain a U.S. residency, and is now saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt thanks to these for-profit schools.

    For those students who want to share their experience, please private message me and we can talk offline. I work for a very legitimate advocacy organization who is trying to shed some light on the high attrition rates at these schools and their abusive, predatory practices towards US students and taxpayer dollars. In fact, for the past several years, I've been working with several members of Congress to address a loophole in current law that allows these schools to not meet the same standards as other foreign medical schools in order to receive Title IV funding under the Higher Education Act (HEA).

    So if you have a story to share, please reach out to me. Your story could make a big difference in holding these proprietary schools accountable.

    Thanks!

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    I hope you plan to be objective and also get plenty of stories from the thousands (maybe tens of thousands?) of students who went on to become well-trained licensed physicians with successful careers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yazwaz View Post
    Hi,

    I'm looking to get in touch with U.S. students -- either former or current -- who pursued M.D. programs at any the following schools: Ross University School of Medicine (RUSM), American University of the Caribbean (AUC), St. George's University School of Medicine (SGU), or American University of Antigua (AUA).

    In particular, I'm interested in hearing from any students who have felt defrauded or misled by these schools. So anyone who failed out of the program, or was dismissed unfairly or unable to obtain a U.S. residency, and is now saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt thanks to these for-profit schools.

    For those students who want to share their experience, please private message me and we can talk offline. I work for a very legitimate advocacy organization who is trying to shed some light on the high attrition rates at these schools and their abusive, predatory practices towards US students and taxpayer dollars. In fact, for the past several years, I've been working with several members of Congress to address a loophole in current law that allows these schools to not meet the same standards as other foreign medical schools in order to receive Title IV funding under the Higher Education Act (HEA).

    So if you have a story to share, please reach out to me. Your story could make a big difference in holding these proprietary schools accountable.

    Thanks!
    "Abusive and predatory" I hardly call telling people over 18 who are all at least partially educated (have to have a bachelors to apply!) that they can get an MD is predatory. I have yet to meet someone who went to a Caribbean school and had normal expectations and worked hard who didn't get a residency. Maybe not dermatology but hey guess what, almost 10% of the students at the US medical school I did residency at didn't match. There are no guarantees in life except you have to work for yourself. These "defrauded" people you speak of are usually those who went out and partied all night, had poor board scores (again based on their own lack of preparation), or had unrealistic expectations. Did you read the story recently of the guy who applied to residency in January for a competitive specialty such as surgery and didn't match? Exactly that's the end of interview season how many people would apply for a job at the end of interviews and reasonably expect to get it? Seems like you're trying to make a story out of people being lazy and unrealistic. Plenty of hard workers have done extremely well and are practicing physicians in the US today. Shameful what you do to try to get a story.
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    All these Caribbean schools should be completely transparent with all of their statistics, not just cherry picked Step pass rates. As in, how many people start at a given time (ex: 300 people started in Fall of 201X) and should follow this cohort through their medical school careers and let people know how many went on to pass step 1, step 2, and graduated within 4 years, within 5 years, etc.

    Also, they should mention from the very beginning that students have to pass Comprehensive exams in order to qualify to sit for Step 1 and 2, which US students do not.

    Students need to know all the facts before they decide if the Caribbean path is right for them or not as there is a legitimate risk to fail out saddled with enormous debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot View Post
    All these Caribbean schools should be completely transparent with all of their statistics, not just cherry picked Step pass rates. As in, how many people start at a given time (ex: 300 people started in Fall of 201X) and should follow this cohort through their medical school careers and let people know how many went on to pass step 1, step 2, and graduated within 4 years, within 5 years, etc.

    Also, they should mention from the very beginning that students have to pass Comprehensive exams in order to qualify to sit for Step 1 and 2, which US students do not.

    Students need to know all the facts before they decide if the Caribbean path is right for them or not as there is a legitimate risk to fail out saddled with enormous debt.

    People should also be smart enough to not enroll in schools that don't divulge this information freely. Everyone knows what the Caribbean offers. It takes very basic research on the forums to see how these schools are run. If you still decide to go and not do well, then I am sorry but you got the chance you wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yazwaz View Post
    Hi,

    I'm looking to get in touch with U.S. students -- either former or current -- who pursued M.D. programs at any the following schools: Ross University School of Medicine (RUSM), American University of the Caribbean (AUC), St. George's University School of Medicine (SGU), or American University of Antigua (AUA).

    In particular, I'm interested in hearing from any students who have felt defrauded or misled by these schools. So anyone who failed out of the program, or was dismissed unfairly or unable to obtain a U.S. residency, and is now saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt thanks to these for-profit schools.

    For those students who want to share their experience, please private message me and we can talk offline. I work for a very legitimate advocacy organization who is trying to shed some light on the high attrition rates at these schools and their abusive, predatory practices towards US students and taxpayer dollars. In fact, for the past several years, I've been working with several members of Congress to address a loophole in current law that allows these schools to not meet the same standards as other foreign medical schools in order to receive Title IV funding under the Higher Education Act (HEA).

    So if you have a story to share, please reach out to me. Your story could make a big difference in holding these proprietary schools accountable.

    Thanks!
    I do not know why, but for some reason your post reminds of Nasir/Nile/stolen dream posts.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleo2015 View Post
    I do not know why, but for some reason your post reminds of Nasir/Nile/stolen dream posts.....
    sounds about right
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