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    Question to grads who did NOT match (feel free to chime in if you did & have advice)

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    Hey. I'm an 8th semester student, prepping my application materials for the 2014 match. I've spoken to quite a few people who matched and who didn't, and I think it would be helpful to discuss common pitfalls on the application/interview/ROL/SOAP, and get as much advice possible for me and my numerous colleagues who are hoping to match.

    Overall, what would you do differently? I've heard general advice like get your CS score in before the application opens up, apply on the first day that the application is available, etc.

    If you didn't match one year and got residency in a subsequent year, what did you do differently?

    Any tips, either on this thread or by PM, will be much appreciated. I'm applying to Family Medicine residencies, and I am honestly terrified of the Match and would sign on the dotted line at any hospital that would give me a pre-match (and I consider myself to be an above average clinical student).

    Also: What options are there, besides being a 5th semester junior faculty, for students who are waiting to match?

    Thanks! (And I really want this to be a positive thread, please, no trolls please, I want to match and I want my classmates to match.)
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    say aaaah is offline Newbie 512 points
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    Hi, Sounds like you have been doing your research on getting into residency and thats a huge plus!

    Please take my opinion lightly, however I will preface by saying that I did obtain residency this year and feel free to message me or reply to this post for any additional ?s you may have.

    First, I would say go to the match list from the last 5 years from Ross, SGU, and all the caribbean schools and make a list of all the FM programs. Make your list and research each program. Some programs require ECFMG certification prior to rank list (ie, you have all 90 weeks of clinicals, done, final degree audit, ECFMG certificate has been mailed to you etc by the February rank list deadline). Some say that give preference to students who have completed research or are from a particular area of the country. Ask these programs if you can do a non-affiliate rotation with them (most places will give a courtesy interview if you have done a rotation with them).

    Second, get all your board scores in by early September before the application begins. It is still possible to receive many interviews and match even with taking CS in the late fall (ie sept, oct or nov) but this is generally not encouraged.

    Yes, your right, apply the first day the ERAS opens up. Just as a heads up, the ERAS website will crash because 30,000 people are logging in and doing the same thing your doing. Just be patient, persistent, and click submit. Make sure you have all your letter writers at least finalized by the date your submit.

    What to do differently. I personally cannot vouch for this, but I would give this advice, when you apply for the match the first time, make it all or nothing: your goal is to match which means do not be cheap, and apply to every FM program in the country (even the malignant programs). You want to cover all your bases.

    The reason why most students do not match is bc A) they applied to too little programs, as a Ross student you should be applying to >100 programs for any specialty. B) they screwed up their interviews by not doing their research and asking the program directors dumb questions, were late, were not enthusiastic, did not do interview mocks C) they applied to specialties which they never had a chance at (ie, your a mediocre student with average board scores but you applied to surgery, ortho, EM or radiology) E) they didnt go on enough interviews F) they submitted their ERAS far too late and didnt have enough LORs. F) they took the CK boards far too late G) they applied to surgery but failed to apply to a less competitive field as a backup (ie FM, psychiatry, peds) H) they lacked a great personal statement that was just far too generic- your PS should make someone want to meet you just by reading it!

    If your gonna finishing in an off semster (bc I hope you will match your 1st time): Ive had friends that taught anatomy at high schools, taught CPR classes, or just did research at their college university. NIH is a good place to research and they usually take on students and give you a stipend. Going to a third world country and giving medical care. Since your going into FM, it would be beneficial for you to shadow at a FM clinic at least once per week or see if you can work as a tech in a clinic. Being a junior faculty is a great idea plus you get paid very well from what I heard.

    I know its super terrifying, but just do you research, practice before your interviews, and you will be fine. If you ever get anxious, just take a look at the ross 2013 match list. Ross kids match in great places. Good luck )

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    I matched first time but know a few people who didn't match first time out. Basically the common pitfalls are listed above by the very well written post from say ahhh. 1) Apply very broadly (but save $25/app and know if you will meet minimum qualifications so you aren't deleted right away) but 100+ programs is pretty standard now and days. 2) Go to at least 10+ interviews, budget at least 7k for the application/interview process. 3) Rank EVERY program you interviewed at, better to be at a program you don't like for 3 years than no program at all. 4) Don't blow off interviews and be professional and excited for the opportunity to train with them. Most programs and PD are proud of what they have built so seem at least a little excited and remember to be early, professional, etc. I would say have a backup but FM kind of is the backup for the more difficult to match specialties so if you have passed all USMLE and you apply and rank broadly then you should match. I believe the statistics are something like 90% of people in the match who have at least 10 programs on their rank list match to their #1 specialty. That % only goes up the more programs you rank.
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    This is good advice. Applying to a program that has taken numerous Ross students before means that they are familiar and comfortable with the Caribbean route. Not all PD are. AS for the interview process, the same advice you would take fro getting a job should apply for a residency. I think they nailed it. Show enthusiasm. go to as many interviews as you can fit in. Rank all the programs that you would be comfortable at. Please feel free to PM me if you would like.
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    Many programs are just looking for a warm body and know they cannot be competitive in the market for US allo grads. Its your job to show them that your warm body comes with no hassles or worries = No red flags, >=average numbers, and a personality that wont ruffle feathers. Do this and thou shall match something.

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