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    Ross University - How hard is it to get into a residency after graduating?

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    Yes, I know... This topic comes up sooo many times on valuemd, and student doctor network. But, more often than not, some American Med Student will comment who never had experience/never went to the school. I have seen the "stats" about how FMG's have around a 50% chance of getting in, but I am also aware that this stat does not count prematches (some people estimate to be about 20% more) and that the Big 4 in the Carribbean is more likely to be higher than the average FMG percentage.
    So my question is (if I can get Ross students that went through the whole process and are currently in a residency, that would be great): How hard is it to get into a Medium Level Competitive (not super competitive, but a decently competitive) residency after graduating from Ross. Also helpful would be answers like what's considered a Good GPA and a good USMLE Step 1 from Caribbean students if they want to compete with their American counterparts. I am thinking of coming back to California after Ross, but some people tell me that it is extremely competitive in California and that if i go to the Carib, I most likely won't get in.
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    please do a search....this has been disucssed over these threads ad nauseum...
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    You need to do your homework.

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    1.) it's harder than for an AMG
    2.) it's getting harder every year
    3.) there are a LOT more IMGs than simply ross grads (or even caribbean grads in general)

    worry about passing the island, and if you learn the material well, it'll show on your boards and you'll do well.

    IMGs are a big part of the healthcare system in the US, with many of them reaching upper level positions. Just because the AMA seems to prefer AMG grads in their rulings, doesn't mean residency program directors dont appreciate a qualified IMG candidate. Sell yourself and focus on GRADUATING, first.

    take solace in the fact that your school at least sends kids to the US for clinicals. think how hard someone from some random european or asian medical school must feel. at least YOU get domestic clinical training and can make connections there.

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    by the way, stop going to studentdoctor. That place will do nothing but psych you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YZF600 View Post
    1.) it's harder than for an AMG
    2.) it's getting harder every year
    3.) there are a LOT more IMGs than simply ross grads (or even caribbean grads in general)

    worry about passing the island, and if you learn the material well, it'll show on your boards and you'll do well.

    IMGs are a big part of the healthcare system in the US, with many of them reaching upper level positions. Just because the AMA seems to prefer AMG grads in their rulings, doesn't mean residency program directors dont appreciate a qualified IMG candidate. Sell yourself and focus on GRADUATING, first.

    take solace in the fact that your school at least sends kids to the US for clinicals. think how hard someone from some random european or asian medical school must feel. at least YOU get domestic clinical training and can make connections there.
    thanks for the info, but i was wondering what GPA/Step 1 Scores would you need for a competitive residency like Emergency Medicine or Orthopedic Surgery. I have combed through sites, and the most I can get is that Carib students must have higher Step 1 Scores, but never specific.. Like how much points more? 10 more? 20 more?
    Also why is it getting harder every year? I thought US was going to be in a shortage of some 45K doctors by 2020 and I heard they are increasing the sizes of residencies each year. Surely it shouldn't get harder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobsjohnie View Post
    thanks for the info, but i was wondering what GPA/Step 1 Scores would you need for a competitive residency like Emergency Medicine or Orthopedic Surgery. I have combed through sites, and the most I can get is that Carib students must have higher Step 1 Scores, but never specific.. Like how much points more? 10 more? 20 more?
    Also why is it getting harder every year? I thought US was going to be in a shortage of some 45K doctors by 2020 and I heard they are increasing the sizes of residencies each year. Surely it shouldn't get harder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobsjohnie View Post
    thanks for the info, but i was wondering what GPA/Step 1 Scores would you need for a competitive residency like Emergency Medicine or Orthopedic Surgery. I have combed through sites, and the most I can get is that Carib students must have higher Step 1 Scores, but never specific.. Like how much points more? 10 more? 20 more?
    Also why is it getting harder every year? I thought US was going to be in a shortage of some 45K doctors by 2020 and I heard they are increasing the sizes of residencies each year. Surely it shouldn't get harder?
    More and more new US schools are being accredited every year so it will get more difficult in several years time.
    For EM - you're looking for Step 1/Step 2 scores in the 230s/240s for a comfortable chance at matching. Of course, these numbers mean nothing until you get to that stage in your medical career. I don't think any Ross student has matched into Ortho - ortho and EM are not at the same competitiveness levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobsjohnie View Post
    thanks for the info, but i was wondering what GPA/Step 1 Scores would you need for a competitive residency like Emergency Medicine or Orthopedic Surgery. I have combed through sites, and the most I can get is that Carib students must have higher Step 1 Scores, but never specific.. Like how much points more? 10 more? 20 more?
    Also why is it getting harder every year? I thought US was going to be in a shortage of some 45K doctors by 2020 and I heard they are increasing the sizes of residencies each year. Surely it shouldn't get harder?
    There is a reason you can't find those stats, because they don't exist. The National Residency Match Program only makes average stats, they don't do stats for IMGs usually. Just know the most competitive specialties like ortho and derm are pretty much out of reach except for 1 or 2 carib grads/year (usually with connections). Search the NRMP, they put out average Step 1, Step 2 etc for US MD...add 20-30 points to that and you will have a decent # of interviews. In the end worry 1st about getting to the match. Worry about the match later.
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