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    LadyTMD is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    Ross' reputation= Your reputation

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    I was perusing a post by a RUSM alumni who is a current Anesthesiologist. "rossanesrez" so graciously began a thread for members to ask any questions or points for clarification to her. One point made deserves sole attention. We must keep this in the forefront of our minds as we go about our business as students and medical professionals associated with Ross:



    Originally Posted by rossanesrez
    I just want to add these words because i unfortunately notice this difference between sgu and ross students. Sgu students have this habit about saying only positive and glowing things about their school, even if it isn't true. us ross students have this habit of saying horrible things about ross, even during the damn interview!!!!!! I think we have this mentality where we want to portray "despite the horrible things this school put me through, i still came out on top". This is total garbage. Let me tell you this one thing, if you bad mouth your school, you will not come out in a positive light. If you insult your school, not only are you insulting yourself, but also all the graduates, residents, and attendings that came before you. Even if the program director isn't from ross, he will think that you may one day bad mouth his program if things dont go just as you like it. It's ok if you want to vent and call ross out on forums or what not, but if you say poor things about ross during your interviews, or even during your clinical rotations... You will screw over not only yourself but all your classmates and alumni. Think before you speak. The ross name is on your diploma last time i checked, and it will follow you throughout the rest of your career. If you tarnish it, you are tarnishing your own reputation as well. If you hear anyone bad mouth ross, politely explain this to them. We're all in this together!
    "Jesus came not to be served but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mark 10:45

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    agree 100%

    Lady-

    You are absolutely, no doubt, 100% right about this thread. It sure is crucial for all current and prospective students at Ross University to keep in mind that they are the school. Ross University will not exist if it wasn't for the great accomplishments of its alumni. Everything they do and say is a reflection of their education and academic background for the rest of their lives. Every person who is involved with this institution in any way carries the duty and responsibility to raise the Ross banner higher than other schools. I commend all that live by that rule and respect their efforts in making Ross an elite institution in the medical realm. Good luck to you all and keep up the great work.


    gG

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    100% Disagree (Respectfully, of course)

    These are all carib schools and they are all carib students, including sgu, windsor, auc, ross, saba, st. james, etc., etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by From NJ View Post
    These are all carib schools and they are all carib students, including sgu, windsor, auc, ross, saba, st. james, etc., etc.
    What? You lost me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gentlegiant View Post
    Lady-

    Every person who is involved with this institution in any way carries the duty and responsibility to raise the Ross banner higher than other schools.


    gG
    I agree in part, there is a time when the whole truth is not appropriate, as in the OP's example of an interview or during clinical rotations ect. However, I believe that graduates are welcomed to speak the truth about Ross' short-comings on valuemd or other such places where people are researching which med school to attend and are looking for such information in order to make an informed decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trillium View Post
    I agree in part, there is a time when the whole truth is not appropriate, as in the OP's example of an interview or during clinical rotations ect. However, I believe that graduates are welcomed to speak the truth about Ross' short-comings on valuemd or other such places where people are researching which med school to attend and are looking for such information in order to make an informed decision.
    Totally agree!
    Although, I'm not sure why one would think that it's appropriate to badmouth the school that they got their med degree from during an interview- Doesn't it just devalue the degree in the eyes of the interviewer?

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    This is something I posted a while ago... But it's relevant to this current thread.

    And since writing this post, I have since graduated from Ross, received my M.D., and will be starting my residency in July at my 1st choice!


    Good things about Ross, yea, that's right!
    Hi Folks!

    Thank God I never knew about ValueMD prior to choosing to attend Ross... Otherwise I sincerely doubt I would have ever attended.

    Obviously there are deficiencies at Ross... I'll be the first one to admit it... and there are hundreds of threads devoted to these weak areas....

    But I thought it might be a welcome change (especially to perspective students and those of you still on the island) to highlight some of Ross' good qualities...

    ***About me... I'm currently about 4 weeks from beginning my 10th (and final) semester at Ross... I've never failed a course, semester, or placed on academic probation. I've taken and passed Step I and CS (on my first attempt) and am awaiting my Step IICK results. I have submitted my residency applications and have received several invites to interview with more expected to follow.***

    Basic Science:
    The island was tough! --> this is a good thing. I had to work hard on the island... passing really meant something! Each semester I worried my butt off whether I'd make it... but this kept me motivated. The information covered was dead on for shelf exams! Taking the self exams in 2nd semester caused me to gain a thorough appreciation of just how well semester 1 and 2 prepared us.

    Semesters 3 and 4 were amazing! When I finally made it to the USMLE Step I, there was nothing on there I had not learned at Ross.

    The 4th and 5th semester physical exam practical exam really prepared me for the CS!

    Ross does NOT spoon feed you information! They provide you the map of what you need to study... As future physicians we will be teaching ourselves and learning information for the rest of our professional lives... Medical school is supposed to prepare us to do that! After all medical information and procedures are always changing! Without a doubt, Ross led me down the right path of learning. I always had access to professors when I sought additional explanations.

    The examinations were difficult and tricky... again... excellent preparation for Step I.

    Title IV approval --> don't ever underestimate what this is worth to you... just ask your counterparts at some of the other Caribbean medical schools without this approval.

    California approval --> " "

    Reputation: Ross has been around over 30 years! There are literally 1000s of Ross Alumni practicing in all areas of medicine... many in high ranking positions... never underestimate Alumni connections! And when you become an Alumni help out one another!


    Clinical Segment: **I can only provide my own experiences**
    Receipt of passing Step I score May 12, 2008 --> First day of Rotations --> July 7, 2008 (had the option to begin earlier in another city, I turned it down)

    All cores (except for Peds) scheduled back to back without gaps.

    Peds eventually scheduled as my last core (don't worry... No one from Ross has ever not graduated b/c they didn't get peds!)

    All my cores were green book.

    Little to no difficulty scheduling elective rotations.

    Completed all of my rotations back to back with only one gap to study for USMLE CK (my personal preference).

    Will finish medical school in Feb 2010. Will have taken 1yr and 7 months to finish clinicals (took 4 weeks to study for CK, 2 weeks of vacation, 2 weeks for interviews).

    Started at Ross May 2006 --> End Feb 2010 (less than 4 years total)


    --> I can't tell you how many times I've talked to students from other Caribbean medical schools that have to wait months to schedule EACH rotation... plus many of them took Months to over a year to study for the USMLE Step I b/c they didn't learn anything on the island (their words). Many stated that passing and making it off the island meant nothing and that this only hurt them when it came time to sit for the Step I.

    Ross does fail and even dismiss a lot of students... but they gave you a shot... and it's much better to realize after first semester you're not cut out to be a doctor than after spending over a 100k and realizing after 5th you're not.

    Students at some other schools don't even get long term schedules... they usually end up scheduling each rotation individually... talk about inconvenient... Ask them about the crap they go through with their loans... it's a mess... Many states won't even allow them to practice. Many of my friends at other Caribbean medical schools started clinicals a long time before me and still finish months after I finish!

    This is only my opinion... but there is a level of professionalism and aptitude unique to Ross students (obviously there are exceptions on either side)... I've worked alongside students from all over the place... and I must say that MOST Ross students present patients well, are well versed in conducting a physical, and performing a history.

    Extensive match list at impressive institutions!


    -->
    I think some students would benefit from spending less time complaining and perpetuating half-true rumors about Ross and more time studying. There are deficiencies... i don't refute that... but not everything you read on ValueMD is always true! Every institution under the sun has its shortcomings.

    The rumor that Ross has to fail more students b/c they accepted too many... or they only have so many clinical rotation spots was around when I was on the island... ppl used to say they were going to change MPSs or make exams harder than the semester before... this has never been the case! And if they do make exams more difficult... this is only going to benefit you in the long run!

    I'm about to finish my Ross experience... I had a good one... It has been a challenge! I will walk away knowing I learned a tremendous amount and truly earned my M.D.! I am also confident I am prepared to be an exceptional physician! I don't regret my decision to attend Ross... in fact i'm thankful I did. I met some amazing ppl during the journey and have learned a lot about myself!

    I wish all of you the best of luck!


    Again, this is a thread for good experiences! And positive feedback. I hope this sheds some light on a few things and helps some of you out.
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    rossmd - congrats on matching in IM, you are surely an inspiration to many. Keep doing your thing and thanx for the helpful post.

    From NJ - I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR POST IMPLIED

    Trillium - Thank you for pointing that out, I believe that valueMD is a great way for people to get the whole truth about schools in order to adequately decide what's right for them. However, I guess my post wasn't clear in stating that our duties and responsibilities to raise the banner is not here in the thread, rather when you're out in rotations. Represent Ross to the best of your abilities as you compete with top schools around the nation. I didn't mention anything about what people should say on valueMD, I'm not a moderator nor do I plan on being one. You can say whatever you wish here just make sure to represent OUT THERE.


    good luck to all,
    gG

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossmd122009 View Post

    Again, this is a thread for good experiences! And positive feedback. I hope this sheds some light on a few things and helps some of you out.

    Come on dude. Post this crap on another board. All this positivity is ruining my day. I come on this board to hear about the misery others are suffering so I can feel just a little better about my own situation. Your slap happy post reminds me of just how terrible things are for me as compared to you.

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    Haha I know it can be tough. I too was in your shoes not too long ago. My point is, there is light at the end of the tunnel! I'm not sure where you are... but the island passes by extremely fast and before you know it, the step I is over and you're well into your clinical rotations.

    I know you don't believe me now... i would not have either, but you'll look back and say to yourself that you learned a lot and that Ross wasn't too bad.

    I wish you the best of luck attaining your dream! Hang in there... there is light at the end of the tunnel... and it's not a train!
    B.S., Rochester Institute of Technology, 2005
    M.D., Ross University School of Medicine, 2010



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