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    Regarding Ross USMLE Pass Rates

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    There have been a lot of threads here on the Ross forum, the general forum, and on other boards. Whenever the USMLE pass rate comes up, people always say it's high for a Caribbean school but still very low compared to U.S. schools.

    Here's what they say on Ross' website:

    "For 2007, Ross students had an overall first-time pass rate for the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) Step 1 of 91%, with an average exam score of 211. Students who earned a basic science GPA of 2.5 or better at Ross had a first-time pass rate of 97%, with an average exam score of 217."

    I've heard it quoted as low as 70% on the boards. Is what they say true? Or is it just some fudging of the numbers?

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    If this statement were true then why does Ross make students even take the comp in the first place? In my day, we didnt have to take the comp for just this reason. Why have things changed?

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    an article was released in october in the journal of academic medicine comparing caribbean schools, i believe ross' first time pass rate for step 1 was around 75%, with sgu being around 85.

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    Not really a fudging of the numbers, but consider to even sit for the step you need to pass the Comp, which is essentially, a 200 q version of the step. Of course once passing a test which is supposed to mimic the step you would then go on to pass the proper test. Suprised the 1st time step pass rate isn't higher.
    hope that helps, don't know if other island schools have to do the same. Depends on who you talk to whether this is a good thing or not, I think the former as it is always good to know where you stand ( I actually took a few other NBME tests to prep myself for the step.) Many other people will prob tell you that the comp is pointless, ect, ect, ect adnaus.... Is all a matter of who you talk to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalpop View Post
    an article was released in october in the journal of academic medicine comparing caribbean schools, i believe ross' first time pass rate for step 1 was around 75%, with sgu being around 85.
    SGU.....84.4%

    Ross....72.6%

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    The data from this study was pooled from 1993-2007. The data on the Ross website has only the data from 2007.

    From this study- 1993-2007.
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    I think that there is a danger of drawing false conclusions from those study results. I would point out that the results do not show any correlation between the quality of the schools and the pass rates.

    I could be that Ross accepts more false positives, that is, people who should pass and end up failing. It could be that Ross accepts more people who should fail (according to MCAT scores et cetera) and do. It could be that Ross gives people like me a chance and that's why they end up with a lower pass rate. Not that I'm going to fail, but it looks like I might on my application to Ross (i.e. I'm not a standout candidate).

    These are just a few examples of possible situation leading to lower pass rates. I hesitate to conclude anything from those results.

    Just a thought. I don't know the Ross admissions policy. But I do know that there are schools that only accept candidate who look like they will pass medical school and reject candidates who look like they may fail.

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    ross and sgu will get a majority of us into good residencies, both are good schools with lots of graduates in the US. 70% is still a good percentage of students passing considering we call couldnt get into us med schools.

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    Note the SGU graph goes by *country*- so in Dominica they are pooling Ross AND All Saints .... so Im sure its safe to say Ross would rank higher than the general Dominica rank
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    1st time pass rate is not that big a deal. as long as you pass within three attempts. its more important to find out the 1-3 times pass rate. no one will care if you passed it the 1st or 2nd time as long as you get above a 225. a score like that will erase all doubts about the caliber of student you are. when you get to the interview, you can explain away the 1st fail as a fluke. but i cannot stress this enough... GET ABOVE A 225!!!

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