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    Ross Bahamas Accreditation

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    Several forums have started regarding the new "pace" site in the bahamas. However, all of them fail to address the real issues regarding the accreditation in the USA. I want a straight answer, IN WRITING, if a student will be able to attain a license in ALL 50 States.

    I contacted the california medical licensing board this morning, via phone. I asked about schools having 50 state approval and how it works if they open up a campus on a different island. I was told that "I would not advise a california resident to attend the bahama's campus" by the CALIFORNIA BOARD.

    Some schools have multiple campuses, but not every campus is accredited in california. An example would be the University of the west indies located on Barbados (is approved) or the Kigezi International School of Medicine, Cambridge, England and Uganda campuses (not approved). Each seperate campus was required to go through the approval process. Ross should not be any different.

    The California medical board's process states that -

    If a medical school is not listed on the recognized school list, the medical school is either unrecognized or disapproved. The education and training received at an unrecognized or disapproved medical school is not acceptable for licensure in California

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    California also requires schools who change nothing but the language the curriculum is taught in to reapply for approval.

    Based on that knowledge, and the information I recieved over the phone, it appears as though the bahamas campus will have to reapply to the California medical board as a branch campus. I'm not sure how that will go over. California refuses to approve any "distance based" learning facility. It will be interesting to see how that works out.

    Does anyone know any more information?

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    According to the email that was sent to the class, we got accreditation. Did you get it? or do I need to post it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustango View Post
    According to the email that was sent to the class, we got accreditation. Did you get it? or do I need to post it?

    I recieved the email, and read it with much anticipation. However, the part you are referring to only indicates that the new campus has been approved by the Dominican Government. It fails to address individual state approval. Perhaps you should contact your state board as well, or get something IN WRITING that clearly states "the bahamas campus is approved in all 50 states"

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    Is there a chance the Freeport campus will not be accredited and the Dominica campus will be accredited?
    No, the School of Medicine is accredited as one school.
    Why not open in May 2009 once accreditation is confirmed?
    The Dominica Medical Board (DMB) visited the Bahamas location on September 30, 2008. As a result of the site visit, the DMB determined that the accreditation of Ross University’s program of medical education will be extended to include the University’s new location in Freeport.
    Are there going to be any changes with accreditation, especially in California?
    No. The University is approved by the State of California and is not scheduled for another review until 2010.


    There are the accreditation questions sent by Ross to the students. This does not address individual state boards. They leave an ambiguous answer. We do not know if in 2010, the board for California will still approve the campus. I personally do not know how they are going to get around the fact that the bahamas campus is distance based learning. I would take the word of the Representative from the Board of California over Ross's word, because they are ones that approve your license and have the ultimate say if you can practice there.

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    I forgot to mention that the California medical board said that they have not recieved any information from Ross regarding the bahamas site. They informed me that they heard about it from the RADIO ad campaign in California. The specifically told me that it will NOT be accredited until they personally review the site, which could take a couple of years (2010).

    All of this information came directly from the California Medical Board, Office of

    Consumer Information Unit:
    License Verification, General Licensing, Application and Complaint Information

    Welcome to the Medical Board of California - Important Phone and Fax Numbers

    if anyone would like to check for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustango View Post
    According to the email that was sent to the class, we got accreditation. Did you get it? or do I need to post it?
    I'm not sure.. but might have been several months since the cali med. board rep.. posted here.... maybe she can post again... And it can get little questionable..., Is ross approved by gov of bahamas..? well.. i guess they might not need since kigezi and st chris operates.. but for cali.. might def. be different, until they post here, update their list - ross bahamas.. just like they do with the eastern europeans schools....

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    funny i posted about lack of school in the bahamas months ago... even e-mail the gov but never got reply..... next spots : trinidad and barbados !

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    I think it's important to distinguish that accreditation by the Dominican government does not equal approval by the California board. I think the situation with the Bahama campus is similar to transferring credits from a community college to a university. The government of Dominica is essentially saying credits earned in Bahama can be transferred and applied towards earning your Dominican issued MD degree; similar to how certain classes taken at a JC can be used towards your Bachelor's. But that doesn't mean that the US, or CA/NY/TX, view the curriculum completed via PACE to be equal to the traditional route. Look at St. Matthew's on Grand Cayman Island. It's accredited by the local government, but it is not approved in at least 11 States, mostly because a majority of those states follow the CA approval list (http://www.valuemd.com/st-matthews-u...-licensed.html) . I think that example alone is enough to dispel the notion that accreditation by the local government is sufficient--if such a notion exists.
    Also, SGU is apparently still having problems in NJ and CA with respect to graduates of their GSP program, who spend a year at a satellite campus in the UK, receiving residencies and licenses.
    I don't know if anything I said helps, or if I was just babbling.

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    This is good clarification Synophrys. For those like myself who haven't started on the island yet, it's hard to understand the whole potential situation. I don't get why everyone gets all riled up, as if anyone questioning the Bahamas deal is a traitor (or from SGU). Why should we blindly trust Ross 100% of the time, it's not like they're giving this to you in writing, like you said. I mean you could go to any of the NON-Top 4 Carib schools and they'll never admit they're students can't practice in all 50 states, but we know it's otherwise.
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