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    Attending Ross after withdrawing from a US med school

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    Background:
    2006-2007 : started M1 year at my state school and took a leave of absence due to poor grades.

    2007-2008 : Restarted my M1 year (while on the "academic achievment plan" AAP) and passed with a 3.3 GPA

    2008-2009 : Started my M2 year while still on the AAP and failed the first set of exams. My school would not let me take leave, but I am guaranteed to fail one course which is not taught in the summer, which means I will fail the M2 year. My school gave me two options: withdraw or go in front of the executive faculty committee. If I go to the executive faculty and they vote to dismiss me, it goes on my permanent record that I have been dismissed. If I withdraw, it goes on my record that i withdrew. The dean told me that if anyone called the school, that her only response would be that I withdrew facing disciplinary action.

    I plan on withdrawing because I have one professor on the committee that is not on my side about staying, and because I am not risky. I would rather take the education I have and go somewhere else than to have a dismissal on my record. Also, I have been told that very few people successfully make it through the committee and stay at school.

    I called Ross University about transfering. They were very encouraging about applying, but the more I read, the more worried I am about getting a residency after going to Ross with my past record.

    What I want to know is - do you think it is possible to salvage my education by going to Ross? Do you think I would be able to get a residency? (I would like to go into EM, FM, or IM)

    Thanks!
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    Yes, Its possible to salvage your education. You made it into a US school that shows you probably have the mental fortitude. Whether you have the drive and desire remains to be seen. Being successful at Ross however can be even more challenging than a US school which seems to have personal advisors, counseling, etc. Ross is sink or swim, man. Think about that before you consider transferring. If you think you can be successful with self study and motivation, give it a whirl. I am a graduate who got his first choice residency in internal medicine, and I am no rocket scientist. I, did however, bust my tail, and kept my eye on the prize. You can too.
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    Well, in your situation, I think Ross is an OK choice.
    I had a friend who Withdrew from one of University of California medschool system from his 2nd year, went to Ross and did graduated. He just finish his family practice residency this year.I heard from my other friend that he match into Rad/Onc and continue his 2nd residency. Good luck to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnySmile View Post
    Background:
    2006-2007 : started M1 year at my state school and took a leave of absence due to poor grades.

    2007-2008 : Restarted my M1 year (while on the "academic achievment plan" AAP) and passed with a 3.3 GPA

    2008-2009 : Started my M2 year while still on the AAP and failed the first set of exams. My school would not let me take leave, but I am guaranteed to fail one course which is not taught in the summer, which means I will fail the M2 year. My school gave me two options: withdraw or go in front of the executive faculty committee. If I go to the executive faculty and they vote to dismiss me, it goes on my permanent record that I have been dismissed. If I withdraw, it goes on my record that i withdrew. The dean told me that if anyone called the school, that her only response would be that I withdrew facing disciplinary action.

    I plan on withdrawing because I have one professor on the committee that is not on my side about staying, and because I am not risky. I would rather take the education I have and go somewhere else than to have a dismissal on my record. Also, I have been told that very few people successfully make it through the committee and stay at school.

    I called Ross University about transfering. They were very encouraging about applying, but the more I read, the more worried I am about getting a residency after going to Ross with my past record.

    What I want to know is - do you think it is possible to salvage my education by going to Ross? Do you think I would be able to get a residency? (I would like to go into EM, FM, or IM)

    Thanks!
    Not that I don't have a profound belief that people are bascially honest, but how would it be disciplinary action if you withdrew and if it was under academic circumstances? And how would it be that much better to get a "W" vs a "F" because I'm sure that would still come up in an interview with Ross as to why you withdrew from a US medical school instead of making a go for it. Just curious if there is more to this story since i've heard its incredibally hard to get booted from a us med school for academic reasons...

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    it is actually NOT incredibly hard to get booted from a US school. A friend who graduated from U of Illinois said about a dozen got booted from his class. as for going to Ross, go ahead and give it a try, but be warned, if your problems at the US school stemmed from problems with studying, etc, you, as gator mentioned, are on your own at Ross. my class did have 4 US transfers. 3 failed out, one got into surgery.

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    Jimbo is right...I knew of some students who were US transfer students and they thought that DeVry Med would be a cake walk, and they acted like their poo didn't stink, and they failed out.
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    If you do transfer into Ross, be aware that this school does not spoon feed you like most US med schools do. It is ENTIRELY up to you how well you are going to do. If you had problems studying, you need to consider that you may run into those same problems at Ross, that is... with less guidance from the school. I don't really think that they care if you fail out or not. As long as they get a good chunk of your money. Also, it wasn't only the material that was difficult, but also moving to Dominica, Miami, then all over NY, then to California took away parts of my sanity. good luck.

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    hey sunnyinfo, i just read your post about transferring and thought i'd add my two cents. i was in the exact situation a year and half ago. i attended an excellent med school in texas and completed my first year with no problems...come second year, i failed two courses and was told i had to retake the entire year. so i retook the year and ended up failing pharm by 6 questions and was then dismissed from the program. i felt like all was lost and there was no way out. i then talked to the people at ross and was admitted and they accepted all my completed courses as transfer credits. i had to go to dominica to take the one course i was missing as well as one other to give me full time status for financial aid purposes. it was very hard adapting to the dominica lifestyle but the coursework was fair. i then did 5th semester in miami, studied for the step, and just got my passing score back. everything seems to be going okay at this point and i should receive my clinical schedule in a few days. There were no other schools that would accept all my transfer credits except for ross and that is why i chose ross. the other credible carribean schools wanted me to retake all of second year courses so i decided against that. Let me know if you have any other questions as I felt like there was no tomorrow when i was dismissed from the us school and i would love to help someone else in the same situation if possible.

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    I get that Ross is the "backup" for everyone barely missing the cut into a US school (obviously including myself), but I think it's kinda unfair that they routinely have a policy of taking students who completely Failed out of US schools (or even worse, other Carib schools). I mean considering basic medical science curriculums in theory are the same everywhere, what makes these people great candidates given a clean slate. Eh I dunno, maybe I'm missing something since I haven;'t started down there yet. . .
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    they aren't really given a clean slate. there will be explaining to do when residency interviews come along.

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