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    Temporary Withdrawal Status and Residency???

    Hello,

    I had a question on the temporary withdrawal status. I will be taking Step 1 soon. The deadline for me to take the exam is November 30, 2008. I was planning on taking it sometime in mid November.

    However, by taking it in mid-November, my score may not come back in time. According to the Ross timeline, you have to begin clinical rotations by December 1, 2008 or you go into TWD status. So that means if I get my score back past December 1st, then I will be in TWD status.

    For anyone that has been in TWD, has this had an impact on getting the residency you wanted, or has it affected you in anyway? I really want to know if this will have any serious consequences on my career.

    Thank you so much.

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    I just got this email from the registar (it's coming a little late, but oh well). Here is an exerpt about the TWD status:

    Please note: As was discuss during AICM orientation and in the memo which was distributed, students who do not begin rotations by the end of the vacation period [16 weeks after completing AICM] must then be placed on Temporary Withdrawn status [TWD] retroactive back to the last date of attendance in the AICM and placed on less-than-half time status. [For the AICM class which ended 8/8/08, this date is 11/30/08] While you are enrolled in the University for the purpose of taking the USMLE Exam, you are not registered for courses at least half time. DOE, as well as all lender regulations, do not allow for deferment of loans or receipt of financial aid when a student is not enrolled at least half time in classes. This means you would have to be a registered for courses in Basic Sciences or Clinical rotations in order to be deferred. The University is unable to submit enrollment verification while a student is in less than half time status. Even during the clinical curriculum, if at any time a student is not scheduled for longer than 30 days between rotations, they will be placed on less than half time status and are subject to repayment on loans. This is a gap which must be disclosed when applying for the Match and for licensure. Please refer to the memo which was distributed during the AICM Orientation for exact dates and timeline information regarding statuses.
    During TWD status, loans cannot be deferred through the University. Your lenders will place you on grace period and if the student does not begin rotations by the end of the grace period, the student must make arrangements with their lenders for an economic forbearance. Once the student passes the boards and begin rotations, the student must complete a reinstatement application and send new deferment forms from the lenders in to the University in order to place the loans back into deferred status.

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    So it does show up in your permanent record?

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    Quote Originally Posted by txdoc22 View Post
    I just got this email from the registar (it's coming a little late, but oh well). Here is an exerpt about the TWD status:

    Please note: As was discuss during AICM orientation and in the memo which was distributed, students who do not begin rotations by the end of the vacation period [16 weeks after completing AICM] must then be placed on Temporary Withdrawn status [TWD] retroactive back to the last date of attendance in the AICM and placed on less-than-half time status. [For the AICM class which ended 8/8/08, this date is 11/30/08] While you are enrolled in the University for the purpose of taking the USMLE Exam, you are not registered for courses at least half time. DOE, as well as all lender regulations, do not allow for deferment of loans or receipt of financial aid when a student is not enrolled at least half time in classes. This means you would have to be a registered for courses in Basic Sciences or Clinical rotations in order to be deferred. The University is unable to submit enrollment verification while a student is in less than half time status. Even during the clinical curriculum, if at any time a student is not scheduled for longer than 30 days between rotations, they will be placed on less than half time status and are subject to repayment on loans. This is a gap which must be disclosed when applying for the Match and for licensure. Please refer to the memo which was distributed during the AICM Orientation for exact dates and timeline information regarding statuses.
    During TWD status, loans cannot be deferred through the University. Your lenders will place you on grace period and if the student does not begin rotations by the end of the grace period, the student must make arrangements with their lenders for an economic forbearance. Once the student passes the boards and begin rotations, the student must complete a reinstatement application and send new deferment forms from the lenders in to the University in order to place the loans back into deferred status.
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    No, It is Not Posted in the Transcript

    Quote Originally Posted by POnuts View Post
    So it does show up in your permanent record?
    Unlike other forms of withdrawal, a TWD does not show up on your transcript. Because the date of last attendance reverts to when you completed AICM, you will need to explain the gap in your training (as you need to do for any gaps in training/occupation greater than 4 weeks). In this case, you can explain that you were reviewing, and preparing for the Step 1 exam, and waiting for your scores in order to come back. Most residencies that consider IMGs are familiar with these types of gaps in the transcript and they do not diminish your candidacy if you have a good GPA and a good Step 1 score. Since you are not a full-time student and your "vacation" period has ended, the TWD makes you ineligible to apply for loans and you are using up your "grace" period for loan repayment. Hope this helps.

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    You have to disclose any gaps in your CAF of your ERAS application.

    Here is the way it looks on my submittted app.

    Medical Education/Training Extended or Interrupted? You then enter Yes or No
    If you lie and then certify it they can pull you out of the match.
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    I also have until Nov 30th, 2008 to take the step but I was planning to take it in Mid-December.

    My question is would it be better to be TWD status or take a leave of absence?

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    I'm just curious - if you completed 5th on 8/8/08, why not take the Step after say, 2 months prep at the end of October?

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    Lighten-UP!!!

    Hey you folks might benefit from the perspective of someone AlmostDone...
    Well taking a few months off to study for boards AND THEN PASS BOARDS ON FIRST TRY is looked at as being pretty smart.
    I have several friends that have flunked the boards (one student has flunked three times and now needs special permission) all mentioned the need to take the boards early so as not to have a delay - but now have flunked licensing boards - have delay, and now those tests with FAILING grades show up everywhere including the Federation of State Licensing Boards Records which none of you seem to know about but later becomes super important - honestly does that look smart?
    I took some time to study and passed first time and residency directors that even bothered to ask thought it was great that I accurately addressed my need to review and passed first time.
    Facts of life: you are from a "foreign school" and they really are going to take a Honors graduate from Harvard before you - when they are at the realistic point of looking at foreign grads they really only want to know if you are capable and can get along with others and they measure that by Letters of Reference and like it or not the USMLE, USMLE, USMLE...
    Hope this puts it in perspective for you...
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    withdrawal and steps?

    does anyone know if a student has withdrawn from a medical school in the past, are they still eligible to take the step exams? is there anyone that has done this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneaky_doc View Post
    does anyone know if a student has withdrawn from a medical school in the past, are they still eligible to take the step exams? is there anyone that has done this?
    i doubt it since, as a medical student, one needs a school to certify you to sit for the steps otherwise you need to be a graduate of a med school to sit without certification.
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