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    sassar is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    POP3 with Ross Webmail

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    Has anyone figured out how to pull email in from Ross? I had Gmail pulling mail from my Ross account until about half way through last semester, but it mysteriosly stopped. I remember seeing a thread about this when it happened, but I'm trying to see if anyone has resolved the issue.

    I've tried pinging almost every mail port commonly used, along with changing the domain name to the one that 5th semester and clinical students use...nothing! I tried emailing Ross IT, but they had no clue and kept insisting that they made no changes to their email ports. Someone probably did make a change, but the rest were too busy watching rap videos on YouTube (the usual) to notice.

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    There was a change, it's posted on the e-mail entry site that Ross mail will no longer work with pop-servers, so I guess we're just out of luck and have to use the horrible explorer outlook tool.

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    Quote from student login:

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    lease note that Ross University School Of Medicine no longer
    provide [sic] "POP3" email services.
    We apologize for any inconveniences
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    During our orientation, it sounded like it was not coming back. I know some schools (in the US) don't like doing pop because "they cannot guarantee the timely receipt of communications" after they leave their system. Whether that is true or not, I've had this problem at most of my undergrads.

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    Yea, it has said this message forever...the last time the page was updated was like 2006. They said that POP3 wasn't available, but they left the port open for some reason...likely someone in IT didn't do their job. There's got to be a way to get POP3 going because if there's a will there's a way!

    Quote Originally Posted by thezohan View Post
    Quote from student login:

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    lease note that Ross University School Of Medicine no longer
    provide [sic] "POP3" email services.
    We apologize for any inconveniences
    .



    During our orientation, it sounded like it was not coming back. I know some schools (in the US) don't like doing pop because "they cannot guarantee the timely receipt of communications" after they leave their system. Whether that is true or not, I've had this problem at most of my undergrads.

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    I wish it would work. I'm not a computer wiz (i guess I wouldn't be in med school if i was) but does IMAP work the same way as POP3? I know we had IMAP at my undergrad but not POP but you were still able to sync up some stuff.......

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    IMAP works. It's similar but different, like dropping a deuce vs a solid case of shack attack. IMAP syncs with the server, but you cannot change anything on the server. If you want to delete an email, you would have to log in to the server to do so. Deleting in your email client program, such as outlook, will only cross it out, or remove it from your view. The mail is still located on the server though.

    POP allows you to download everything from the server and make changes. POP is better, but it still makes me laugh when I hear the word used in the context of a soft drink... what the hell is "pop" anyway? The accepted vanacular would be "Soda" or coke. Even the Ross email servers refuse to acknowledge the use of "POP"

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    Attention fellow IT nerds! I've come up with a pretty cool solution that sort of gets the job done. Essentially it is a parallel IMAP transfer of emails.

    1. Open Outlook, Microsoft Mail, whatever.
    2. Create an account for Ross. IMAP, dmexg01.rossmed.edu.dm for both incoming and outgoing, default IMAP port of 143. Pretty lax settings on Ross' end.
    3. Log on to your Gmail account and activate IMAP under settings.
    4. Go back to your mail client and create an account for Gmail, now. IMAP, SSL activated, imap.gmail.com:993 (secure), and smtp.gmail.com:463 (secure).
    5. Both accounts should work under IMAP. Go to your Ross email, get all the emails you want, drag and paste to Gmail.
    6. You now have your Ross emails in your Gmail account without having to create special forwarding rules for Outlook Web Access. Headers appear in perfect condition. The only downside to this approach is that you have to manually transfer your emails. Automatic POP3 fetching would be 1000x more convienient, but I understand Ross' concerns. Consider this method a way of using Gmail's massive storage space as a way to archive and search your Ross emails.

    If it doesn't work for you, PM me and if you're nice and you buy me a Kubuli I'll help you configure it.

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    I haven't tried the above method, but I do know that push email works. I have it setup on my ipod touch and as long as I am within range of wifi, whether it be my apartment, campus, whatever, I am IMMEDIATELY notified when email arrives. So since that works, I would think any push email client works. For those of you that use macs: Mac Mail app is NOT a push client, it will not work. I know they say it is push compatible... but it is like pseudopush. Hard
    "This serious business. OK? Are you listening? This no joke."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wecandothisallday View Post
    I haven't tried the above method, but I do know that push email works. I have it setup on my ipod touch and as long as I am within range of wifi, whether it be my apartment, campus, whatever, I am IMMEDIATELY notified when email arrives. So since that works, I would think any push email client works. For those of you that use macs: Mac Mail app is NOT a push client, it will not work. I know they say it is push compatible... but it is like pseudopush. Hard
    "Push" email is IMAP, while "pull" is POP3. A mail client can be set up to either protocol, it's just a matter of how you set it up and what the server allows.

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    What's the "Purge Mail" Option for IMAP. It says "when you switch to another folder, the items marked for deletion in the original folder will permanently be deleted on the server. Items will not be permanetly removed when switching folders offline."

    So does that mean if I click "purge mail" that if I delete something on Outlook that it will delete it on the Ross mail server too?

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