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    rossmd122009 is offline Member 527 points
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    is there any hope of matching in Internal medicine with a board score of a on the step I? I'm just wondering... i'm a little lost as to what my score means. thanks for your input!

    and any advice as to what i can do to enhance my chances of matching?
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    You can go on the NBME website and find an explanation of scores, as well as the average score for students who matched in each residency. I think the average for IM was around 220, but you may want to check it out. Good luck!

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    i know dozens who matched IM with scores much worse. i wouldnt worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txdoc22 View Post
    You can go on the NBME website and find an explanation of scores, as well as the average score for students who matched in each residency. I think the average for IM was around 220, but you may want to check it out. Good luck!
    I have been trying to find that same chart but with no luck. If i do find it I will post it. Scores in the 220s are above average scores, and I am pretty sure the IM average was 214 on that chart.

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    The average was 220, but the range of scores that matched was really really wide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Closter View Post
    The average was 220, but the range of scores that matched was really really wide
    Yea, you are right. 220 was the US avg and 214 was for all others. Here is the most recent one I could find http://www.nrmp.org/matchoutcomes.pdf

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    Does anyone have any personal experience on what type of score is needed for a good university IM program?

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    i would agree, above 220 will get you plenty of interviews, but that is not to say that lower than that won't get you anything.

    persistance i think is the big key...when you are applying, apply widely and keep in touch with them! There will be many places that will say neither yea nor nay to you....call these places, keep on them for last minute cancellations and so forth (esp in jan!)- so many people apply and then do nothing...they just wait to hear from the programs...in applying to residency as in everything else, you have to be proactive....an interview is not gonna just fall in your lap (esp if your scores are below the avg), you have to make it happen and not be discouraged by the word "no".

    and not personal experience, but i know someone who had scores similar to yours, was persistant, turned a rejection into an interview and matched there as his #1..all because he was persistance (literally called the RC every day in jan hoping for a last minute cancelation- got an interview for jan 30th - pretty much the last day the place interviewed!).
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    I can't thank you guys enough!! I looked up the scores... 220 is the mean... however it does appear that the range is rather wide!!
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    Here is the 2007 data for independent applicants like us, i.e. Caribbeans Grads:

    Accepted in IM (1,743):

    Top 75% 234
    Median 220
    Bottom 25% 205

    Couldn't match in IM (2,303 Medical school graduates):

    Top 75% 220
    Median 205
    Bottom 192

    So obviously, if you actually ARE accepted into an IM residency then you will be at approximately 25% (percentile) i.e. out of a hundred residents then 74 will have a higher step 1 than you, and 24 will have lower step 1 than you . . . however it doesn't say how much lower i.e. there could many student hovering around 200-205. So this is the good news, i.e. that people with your score have been accepted to IM residency. The bad news is that half of applicants to Internal Medicine residencies with a step 1 score better than yours did not get accepted to internal medicine residency. Roughly 1,748 independent applicants matched into IM (450 of whom had a step 1 lower than you), and another 2,303 independent applicants (approximately 1,000 of whom had a better step 1 score than you), failed to match into an IM residency.

    So based on step 1 score alone I would estimate that you have a 30% chance of matching in IM as this field gets more competitive and there were literally approximately 1,150 caribbean, indian, etc. . .grads with a step score better than yours who did not get IM, however, there were about 450 with equal or lower step 1 score to yours who did get IM, so that is how I estimate 1/3 chance. You might want to consider Family Practice as well as this has lower test scores of those admitted. Also consider that were 500 or so independent applicants with a step 1 score greater than 220 who did not get an IM residency!!!
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