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    I am currently a 4th semester and have been speaking to many doctors (some Ross grads) who are willing to lend me helping hand and offering to give me opportunities to do my rotations at various hospitals such as DMC, Children's, etc. These are not "greenbook" hospitals however.

    I do have the same opportunity at one of the affiliated hospitals but I was told that I should look at other hospitals because I could not do all my cores there.

    Does anyone know if all cores have to be from affiliated hospitals in Michigan? All states are different and I have been trying to find my answers online with my state's requirements but I just cannot find it! Any links?

    Any help? I would love to be able to take these doctors up on their offer!
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    Do not complete a SINGLE core at a non-affiliated hospital. It will bite you in the *** down the road.

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    Yeah, that's true, look at what is happening to people who do there stuff at the so called "affiliated" sites in chicago.
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    Are you sure DMC and Children's don't have Wayne State University residents and students there? I'm pretty sure they used to....If WSU students and residents are there, then you are good to go....

    Best of Luck!

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    Be careful

    Do not even do electives at programs not ACGME or AOA certified. You may know the attending and feel comfortable there; however, in the long run, it may ruin your chance in obtaining licensure from a few states. Don't do it!

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    DMC (Detroit Medical Center, for those who don't know) is the primary teaching institution of Wayne State University School of Medicine. DMC is comprised of many hospitals (Detroit Medical Center), most of which are located on the same campus as the school of medicine. I can't see how it's not greenbook because I run into Wayne State med students all the time. Between the DMC and school of medicine, they have just about every specialty and subspecialty residency/fellowship program ever conceived of with the noticeable exception of orthopaedic surgery (which they starting up again).

    Now if you are talking about an individual hospital of the DMC not being greenbook for a certain specialty, that might be so. You're not going to find Ob/Gyn residency at Detroit Receiving Hospital because there is no Ob/Gyn dept there. Ob/Gyn dept and residency would be at the adjacent Hutzel Women's Hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Thomasson View Post
    Are you sure DMC and Children's don't have Wayne State University residents and students there? I'm pretty sure they used to....If WSU students and residents are there, then you are good to go....

    Best of Luck!
    general rules:
    don't do cores anywhere except at affiliated hospitals. some states have clauses that your core rotations must be done in full contracted sites with the additional req in some that they all be green book acgme cert hospitals

    try to do electives only at greenbook acgme sites texas and i think penn require you to do all cores and electives at green sites

    don't EVER to a rotation through a doctor that just has privilidges at a hospital this is not a rotation valid for med school it is called an observership. it may go under the radar in one state but may give you problems and deny your license then you have to notifyu other boards you apply to that you were denied a license in a state then they look at why and deny you. my school does not allow these types of rotations, i am sure ross does not either so you will not even get far enough in the scheduling process

    all rotations you should set up through the medical education dept of the hospital. if you have a doc you want have them give you a letter saying they will take you a student and as long as they are teaching faculty of that hospital there should be no problem

    it is a pain to keep up with all the state rules so use the strcictest one, meaning all greenbook rotations, all set up through the school, and you will have very few questions on your license. good luck
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    It is IRRELEVANT that the posters' sites are ACGME.

    It is RELEVANT that the posters' sites are NON-AFFILIATED with Ross. You are automatically eliminating yourself from licensure in a LOT of states by completing cores at NON-AFFILIATED hospitals. Whether or not ther are ACGME rotations is a mute point.

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