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    St. Mary's, Waterbury, CT

    Alpathmd: I've heard the St.Mary's Surgery Core is pretty good but tough. The attendings are not nice to the students, but you'll learn alot and scrub in for alot of cases.
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    Having done surgery here recently (within the last 2 years), I have to say the program was awesome. I didn't want to go into surg, and still don't, but even I really really enjoyed the rotation. The residents are all very knowledgeable, and yes, many are HARD on you-- but at the end they only have your best interests in mind. I surely know I will NOT forget all the diseases/tests/treatments I was pimped on. In addition, several of the residents are very good at making you feel like part of the team (some are not), and they CHALLENGE you to make informed decisions and to give an opinion on what to do next. This rotation will teach you the bread and butter of pre/post surgical care, and the essentials needed to be a *well informed* resident (irregardless of what field). You will NOT learn advanced surgical technique here, you will NOT be in the shoes of a "unofficial surgical resident". You will be drilled in many basic surgical patients, conditions, and treatments that, surprisingly, so many full-fledged doctors seem to have an extremely difficult time dealing with.

    The program directors, the attendings, staff, etc are also great. they support the students, they are actually willing to teach, even if at first some don't seem super approachable. Just like anything in life, you need to keep your eyes open, learn how to approach different personalities, and how to get valuable information out of all of them.

    I dont have time to write a book on this rotation- all I can say is, prepare to put long hours in, but come out of it feeling like a BOSS. No subsequent rotation's hours, responsibilities, residents will ever scare me again... I have grown a thick skin, a lot of confidence, and most importantly, the doctors here taught me a way of *thinking*--- being proactive, driven, and cutting out the B*** S*** (which is really VERY hard for many healthcare professionals to do!). Know your place on the team, be confident in your knowledge, and if you DONT know something.... own up to it, take the initiative, and LEARN it. Then you will be an expert and never forget it.
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    I finished a mighty 12 weeks there in July. But my experience and anything I would write is pretty much the same as the previous post.

    The PGY-1's who are now PGY-2's are super nice. Which is kind of a change. The rest were fairly harsh, but w/ a purpose to make sure you knew you are there to learn. Anyone who ends up at St Mary's you are welcomed to PM me if you have issues because at the end of 12 weeks, you get to know A LOT that could have made a difference in the beginning (how to make AM rounds go smoothly/not get yelled at, knowing when to speak during surgeries w/ certain attendings or what to be expected to do by surgery+attending)

    I did really well on the Surg shelf w/o cracking open a formal text book. Just from the experience and when I would have to retreat to UpToDate when I got pimp'd. Hours suck!!! High 70 at least 80 hrs/week! However, they don't mince words. If you are thinking about doing a Surgical residency, this is the rotation you should do. You get treated like a near-intern after about the 1st week but you work practically every single hour the interns do.

    Your competency shoots way up when you finish. The #1 question asked = YOUR assessment & plan! The seniors read your notes. Some of the attendings read your notes. If you have not thought up your A&P - that's when you get in the most trouble.

    It can be brutal, but after you survive, you are MUCH BETTER than when you started there.
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    Haven't been on VMD in ages...

    Just wondering if Ross students still rotate at St. Mary's? As it seems there have been significant changes in the clinical dept in the past 5-6 yrs. I thought the program was great for IM training and often matched several Rossies as well.

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