Sponsored Links
Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    D4run is offline Junior Member 510 points
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    36
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Corruption in UMF Victor Babes?

    Advertisements



    I came to know that in this particular university (UMF Victor Babes) in Timisoara, Romania, charges you 500 EUROS to pass their anatomy classes. Someone told me even if you are a scholar, you will have to compulsorily pay 500 EUR to them to pass these exams. I am aware already of the corruption in other universities like Oradea and Cluj! This is the first time I came across corruption in Victor Babes, which I though, wasn't. So, is it really true? Any Timisoarian graduate can answer this, please?! I would like to know your opinion on it!
    [That guy told me Constanta is better, and not corrupt like these others, which confuses an international student like me!]

  2. #2
    chapelier is offline Senior Member 528 points
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    780
    Downloads
    5
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    regarding corruption in Oradea , your facts must be more than 4 years of age...
    Since Dr Bumbu has become dean of the faculty ,I've not heard of such things
    500€ for an exam is expensive , if you want to pay for this , Iasi seems cheaper http://www.valuemd.com/romanian-medi...n-student.html (around 250-400€/exam Google Traduction )
    thus that's strange I've not heard bad things about timisoara and some collegues have related studying in this faculty. I can criticise admission process but if I were you I'd check facts before , regarding iasi , an article was published with names and prices , corruption there is not a doubt
    Last edited by chapelier; 07-19-2011 at 06:42 PM.

  3. #3
    waltfw is offline Senior Member 519 points
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Oradea, România
    Posts
    599
    Downloads
    3
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rumors are, frankly, exaggerated. 500 eur to pass an exam? Not a chance. Maybe if you FAIL the exam that would be the price to get a passing grade, more than likely you will just get laughed at.

    Corruption exists, but it's not nearly as common these days.

    Think about it this way - an international student pays about 3,000 euros to the university. Does it make sense for the dean to risk losing that student (or worse, the reputation of the university) by letting a professor get away with such behavior?

    On the other hand, this person from Constanta.. why are they trying so hard to get you to their university? Cluj, Bucharest, Targu Mures (and Iasi, disputably) have the best reputations in Romania, academics and otherwise.

  4. #4
    D4run is offline Junior Member 510 points
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    36
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    jurnalul.ro/special/special/cel-mai-bine-pazit-secret-medical-cancerul-coruptiei-521128.html
    Can someone please explain me this? I guess it is something about corruption, and it also mentions Indian students or something like that (foreign students). !! Please explain!

  5. #5
    waltfw is offline Senior Member 519 points
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Oradea, România
    Posts
    599
    Downloads
    3
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    The best kept medical secret - the cancer of corruption.

    "Nepotism, bribes for exams, diploma exams, housing, scholarships, "designated auctions", all of these describe the typical day in the life of University Victor Babes in Timisoara. After the gypsy scandal transacted between 2 students in the university dorms, the new year begins with the student revolt and that of some professors, upset by these practices."

    It continues with a description of various schemes, accusing several high level faculty members of corruption, bribes that people pay in order to get certain positions within the university (professor, etc.), bribes that people pay unofficially to live in the dorms, etc.

    Couple of comments by current students (reader comments after the article) talking about bribes, uncertainty of finding work (discussion of paying bribes to find a job), etc.

    The Indian student evidently made a complaint to the Romanian Prime Minister as well as the Indian embassy and India's foreign ministry. It's not very specific, it just says this student complained about the bribery "system". It doesn't say the student was actually paying bribes or asked to pay them.

    I don't see anything in there about foreign students being singled out. Actually from reading the article it seems like the corruption mainly affects the Romanian students, at least directly.

    OTOH I don't see any comments by those accused. Not saying everything is empty accusations, but an article like this should ask for comment from those accused imo.
    Last edited by waltfw; 07-23-2011 at 04:29 PM.

  6. #6
    waltfw is offline Senior Member 519 points
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Oradea, România
    Posts
    599
    Downloads
    3
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    I want to add, that you will find corruption and unethical behavior EVERYWHERE (not just in Romania). But with the salary of a new professor something like 200-300 euros, is it a shock that some of them ask for money come exam time? I think the practice is not so widespread, because we only hear of it in sensational news articles and rumors. Maybe a student fails an exam and pays a 'favor' to retake it unofficially and not wait until the resit. Maybe a student missed a lot of class and pays a fee to make their name show up in the attendance list (so that they don't have to spend time officially recovering the courses).

    There so many opportunities like this for people to bend the rules, to get the same result for less hassle and headaches. School says you pay 50 euros to resit an exam and have to wait until july, but the professor says if you give 100 euros you can retake the exam this evening. I have NEVER seen this happen, but the opportunity is definitely there. So why would a professor need to extort students who come to class, study, practice, and have no trouble passing the exams on their own? It doesn't make sense to me. Sounds to me more like that Romania has a bad reputation and can't get away from it. Every time there is an actual scandal, it's taken as a sign of endemic corruption and an example of why Romania never should have been allowed into the EU. Romania was refused entry into Schengen because of (to listen to politicians of certain countries) heresay by certain undisclosed businessmen. Come on...
    Last edited by waltfw; 07-25-2011 at 11:53 AM.

  7. #7
    D4run is offline Junior Member 510 points
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    36
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Thanks a ton for the translation, really appreciated! Well, you're right.. and you explained it in a simple way as well. Corruption is inevitably present in Romania and I feel hopeless but forced to go there in spite of these acts. IDK if they are present in Western Europe. Romania was the cheapest EU country I could find for my medical studies. So I have no other alternative..

  8. #8
    waltfw is offline Senior Member 519 points
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Oradea, România
    Posts
    599
    Downloads
    3
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Well that's what I mean - there's corruption everywhere in the world. Romania's reputation just means things get blown out of proportion.

Similar Threads

  1. any hot babes at ross?
    By mushroom lover in forum Ross University School of Medicine
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: 12-06-2010, 01:35 AM
  2. Corruption in Central Asian schools
    By azskeptic in forum Asian Medical Schools
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-06-2009, 10:10 AM
  3. Beaches babes booze
    By JHarris in forum American University of the Caribbean (AUC)
    Replies: 68
    Last Post: 11-04-2007, 10:39 AM
  4. Doc ......plz avoid corruption in this forum
    By drtintin in forum The Suggestion Box & Technical Support
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-02-2006, 04:29 PM
  5. EE Corruption
    By krysmj in forum Main European Medical Schools Forum
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 05-15-2005, 06:44 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •