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    cardiodoc89 is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Cluj Medical School

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    Hi,

    I am a Romanian-American who wants to apply to UMF Cluj. I went there in September of 2010 and was very impressed with the university. I couldn't apply this year so I need to wait til next year. I traveled from Bucharest all the way to Maramures and I can say that Romania is one of the safest places I've ever been to and very very beautiful, filled with kind, warm, hard-working people and supermodel status, beautiful women! I stayed in Brasov (very very beautiful) for four days and traveled alone with no problem (very cheap too). I would like to study at Cluj because of the price, because of my heritage/identity as a Romanian, because I'll be able to travel throughout Europe while on vacation for very cheap, and also because student life in Romania seems more chill/fun since Romanians know how to have fun. I do have some questions though regarding the application process that I would greatly appreciate some clarification. Ive been researching a lot and I'd like to solidify everything.

    1. If I apply to Cluj in April of 2011 and am accepted, will I attend school in 2011 or have to wait until 2012?

    2. Can I apply to more than one school at the same time? (i.e. Cluj, Bucharest, Oradea, Timisoara, etc.) I've heard that you can if you do this individually. Could someone please clarify?

    3. Is the English Section good at Cluj? I speak fluent Romanian and English but have done my schooling in English.

    4. Could I work in Romania if I do the English program? (Also, is this really worthwhile, since I know the salaries are low, but some people said doctors still get paid very well in Romania. I asked many people this and I wouldn't mind living in Brasov-especially since I want to marry a Romanian. So beautiful and the food is amazing!!)

    5. I will have a B.S. in Neurobiology in June of 2011. Will this guarantee my acceptance at Cluj?

    6. Does the university provide dorms or should I rent an appartment?

    7. If anyone is in the English section at Cluj, are you satisfied with your decision to study in Romania, and with the education in the English section (i.e. are you learning)?

    8. What do students do with their free time?

    If anyone can answer some or all of these questions, I would greatly appreciate it. Any input is gladly welcomed.

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    -for romanian section you have to take admission concurs in july , around 1:3 acceptance rate , program being the same than bucarest and other main romanian progs (chemistry , biology , math) , you have even free seats for best ranked , else around 1900€/year
    -english section : 5000€ / year , file admission based on highschool grades mainly (conditions not very clear) , admition rate around 2:1 / 3:1 difficult to know precisly (they don't publish everything)
    cluj is quite expensive town , but you can apply for camine

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    Nice. So can I apply to both Romanian and English Sections?

    I want to study in English because it would be easier for me. I can read, write and speak Romanian since I am Romanian, but I've studied all of the terminology in English. I got very good grades in biology and chemistry and would pass the Romanian exam if it was in English, but I might have a hard time passing it in Romanian since it is timed and all of the terminology is in Romanian.

    Also, since I am a Romanaian born abroad (USA), I recieve a reducere (reduction) in price to 3400Euros if I study in English. So price is not a problem (still much cheaper than US med schools).

    How much is the average student living cost in Cluj? (Cit coasta aproximativ pentru un elev sa traiasca in Cluj pentru o luna?)

    Thank you for the reply. Keep them coming. Do you know when I would start school if I get accepted in 2011? Do I start the same year or do I have to wait another year (2012)?

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    Also, I only studied Physics and Biology in High school. I took chemistry while I was in high school, but it was at a college. I am about to graduate from a four-year university with physics, biology, and chemistry all retaken there.

    Will this be a problem since they look at high school courses?

    They don't look at anything else like university classes?

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    this year they took mainly in consideration highschool marks in the 3 subjects , to make for everybody the same (equivalent of 7/10 ie 3.5 gpa required)
    for the other questions , I (hopefully) left cluj now so can't tell exactly . Surely the best town for party and best univ for luxury halls and libraries but for me irrespect towards EU student and opacity of foreign sections were unbearable

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    It might be possible to get Romanian citizenship? In this case you could benefit from a free seat plus monthly stipend, assuming you take the Romanian language entrance exam and study in Romanian language (not sure but maybe English section you could do this also...)

    Remember too that to practice in California you have to do all 6 years in Romanian. And states that use the California "list" have similar restrictions although some of them will still give you a license in the end, and just want extra documentation. But California is strict and will not license you if you do English. In my case I study in English because I'm not Romanian and don't care about California, but I don't know about you.

    If you check Cluj's website I believe prior degrees in science are accepted in the English program. Neurobiology I am sure would give you an edge. The English section university is on a "points" system so prior research, clinical experience, certification (i.e. CPR), letters of reccomendation, etc. will all help you. However the Romanian section does not appear to follow this points sytem (in other words, just the entrance exam) - http://www.umfcluj.ro/Document_Files/Noutati/00000289/ailmg_Admission%202010%20(EN).pdf

    Nevertheless if you do decide to study in Romanian, I think your files would still be considered... email/call them and find out! Neurobiology is worth something. As for the chemistry, isn't it on your highschool transcript? If not, get your highschool to write a letter explaining you completed chemistry at a college and this is why it doesn't appear on the highschool transcript. Have them include a copy of the college transcript with the chemistry marked and make sure it's notarized and sealed with the apostille. Probably overkill but you never know. I can't say any of that for sure though because I'm studying in Oradea.

    Cost of living, I can't really say except here in Oradea the price of daily life is sometimes more expensive than I found elsewhere in Romania (even Bucharest) 2 or 3 years ago. It really depends what you want to do, and food is expensive. If you buy lots of "western" food like ice cream, foreign brands, sodas, etc., it costs the same as America (small town, not NYC or LA). Meat (in a grocery store or local market) is 2-3 USD per pound I think. Apartments in Cluj I've heard are 250 euros/mo for a nice centrally located one. You can get a good place in Bucharest for this price so I am sure you can find nice places for less than 250E. Internet+TV is about 10 euros. Cell phone is 5 euros (not including data plan, which is maybe 5-10+ euros depending..). No idea on the other utilities.

    Something else... if you are older than 26, you need to buy Romanian social security (the health insurance portion). It's 540 RON per year.. so about 120 euros. You're also (technically) not supposed to get heating or tram reductions but I get them because nobody checks.

    As far as terminology, I have a Romanian language anatomy atlas and physiology textbook. The terminology is latin derived so is very similar to english from what I've read so far. The difference is when english doesn't use latin.. for example "Sodium" and not "Natrum". or "Corp vertebral" in Romanian vs "vertebral body" in English. Of course the grammar is different. Probably you already knew all of that, but I was very suprised that I could read basic physiology and understand everything because the nouns are all the same as english.

    One final word of caution (in case you didn't already know this), but from what I know, if you try to get the first year or two waived because of prior degrees, this can make it tougher to get a license back in the US after school. Something that might be worth thinking about anyway.

    As far as working here, it's quite complicated especially for non-EU. Non-EU citizens need permanent residency, or be married to an EU citizen with permanent residency in Romania. PR takes 6 years, and your study time counts only 50%, and during the duration (6 years, or 9 years if you study for 6 and then work for 3, for example) there are strict limits on how much time you can leave the country. I think less than 6 months total during the entire 6 year period, and there might be limits as to any given year as well. So getting married to a Romanian is the easiest way, if you can't get Romanian citizenship by your ancestry. I want to stay here but the difficulty of getting licensed (unless I get married) is a problem. Romania will enter Schengen though and that might relax the rules a bit (hopefully).

    Dr. salaries I am not too sure of specifics but the residents are paid very poorly. Only after you finish residency do you get paid more money and still much lower than the private hospitals/clinics. I think in a private hospital you can earn a comfortable living, I have heard numbers between 500E/month up to several thousand depending on location, specialty, seniority, etc. If you own the practice you can make more, obviously. Everyone here exaggerates their wages down, so it's really hard to figure out what people actually make. If you don't mind taking bribes you can make good money in a public hospital also but of course this is more complicated and maybe isn't going to be around forever. Who knows when the salaries will increase.. IMF just forced Romania to cut all public salaries and hike the VAT to 24%

    As far as quality of education, we have an anatomy instructor who studied in Cluj and he's fantastic. If nothing else I would feel safe studying anatomy there.

    Sorry for the long post, hope I didn't waste your time with things you already knew. There are a growing number of Americans studying in Romanian med schools and being one myself as well as a Romaniophile, I'm excited to see the numbers growing =)
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    Thanks for the replies!!

    Yes, I can get Romanian Citizenship easily (I was going to in September).

    I actually want to study in Romanian since I hear its the best, but can I apply to the English section also just in case I don't pass the exam?

    Not sure about the food thing though. I was eating out every day and was buying pizza for 15LEI ($5) in september and it was soo good and inexpensive! I was buying Illy/segafredo espressos for 3-4LEI (less than $1). 250euros for an appartment is cheap compared to the US.

    Now I am 21. If I get accepted in 2011, I'll be 22. But if I'm accepted in 2011, do I start school in Sept of 2011 or 2012? Still need clarification here : ) Thanks.

    Yes, I speak Romanian fluently and am very proud of the latin roots of our language. It is a beautiful language and helps me out in physiology here in the US. I also don't want to waive the first two years because of the reason you just described.

    I do want to work at a private clinic if I work in Romania. I've seen doctor's homes in Romania and they are fantastic. Romania is amazing. Trust me (but you already know : )) Why did you decide to study in Oradea as a US citizen? I am Romanian and really want to discover/add depth to my Romanian identity. I'm just curious.

    Toward chaplier, what do you mean by "but for me irrespect towards EU student and opacity of foreign sections were unbearable." You can write in Romanian too. I understand it perfectly. Also, is Oradea a better school? why did you choose to go there? (Parintii mei sunt Clujenii si Bistritenii si vreau sa studiez in Cluj fiindca mai am familie acolo, dar se poate oriunde).

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    If you are accepted in 2011, your classes start Sept. 2011

    Yes, the price can be cheap but it all depends on you. If you go the foreign places (McDonalds, Nike, etc.) you pay as much or more than in the US. I try to go to the Romanian stores and restaurants because these are what I enjoy.

    As far as applying to both sections, I don't know.

    I actually came to Oradea because Bucharest didn't open their admissions on time for foreign students. Now that I'm here, i'm finding the university is better than I anticipated and I'm less inclined to transfer to Carol Davila. Sometimes I think about it, but the cost of living here is so low and a lot of people are serious about making the university even better. I'll probably visit Carol Davila again to see some more of the school before I make a decision. Quality wise, all the Romanians I've talked with say Cluj and Carol Davila are among the best (and variously other schools but Cluj & CD are consistently up there). I am not sure about the english program though. it's hard to get good quality information but I can say that the administration in Cluj is not as good in many ways as in Oradea (from what I've heard from other students here)

    I think the quality of education is going to be better in the Romanian section no matter where you go, because not all of the professors are confident enough to teach thoroughly in english, and the Romanian section is training Romanian docs, not ones that are (most of them) leave after 6 years and never come back. I'll transfer in as soon as I can (hopefully after 1, 2 years at the latest).

    To answer the bigger question, I decided to come to Romania because I saw opportunities for a good life here. There's more freedom in daily life compared to the US, it's a more interesting place, people are smart, many reasons really. It's a crossroads of the world so politics and history are interesting here and always changing

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    Does anyone know anything regarding the Romanian entrance exam? Is the biology/chemistry high school level? Also, are there any sample exams or prep courses one can take in order to prepare for it?

    If anyone is on this post and was accepted into the English program, what extracurricular activities did you have? Research, clinical volunteering, organizations, certifications? What would increase my chances of admission on the first round of applying?

    Also, if I am a US citizen, does anyone know if I can take a loan and forward the money to my account while I'm in Romania, or would I need to take out a loan from Romania?

    Thanks again for all the info. Keep it coming!

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    English section of Cluj is on the points system I linked to. I just remembered there is a forum for Cluj medical students here: UMF Cluj Unofficial Forum :: Index

    As far as loans, none of the Romanian medical schools (to my knowlege) are certified for federal student loans. Maybe you can get a private student loan, which probably will require a cosigner.

    Sorry, I don't know about the other questions

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