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    US citizen in Indian Med School

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    I am an American born citizen currently studying at Deccan College of Medical Science in Hyderabad, India. I am now in final year with my exams coming up in October. What would be the next best step in my career to ensure that I get a residency in the US? I don't want to do my housejob here, can I do it in America? Would that count as me doing a year of clinical rotations and therefore increase my chances of getting a good residency? What about my USMLE, when should I take that? Before, after or while doing rotations? I know that IMGs usually get stuck with residencies in internal med, family practice, obgyn, psychiatry or pediatrics, but I'd like to do ENT. How can I increase my chances of getting into an ENT residency program? I know these are a lot of questions, but I'd love any advice. Please make sure its accurate though. Thanks.

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    Re: US citizen in Indian Med School

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunz81
    ...I know that IMGs usually get stuck with residencies in internal med, family practice, obgyn, psychiatry or pediatrics, but I'd like to do ENT. How can I increase my chances of getting into an ENT residency program?...
    Isn't ENT supposed to be extremely competitive? I'm afraid I don't have any advice to give but I'm very interested in hearing how things turn out.

    If I decide to go to the US, the specialty I'd want is also quite competitive (but not, I think, as competitive as ENT).

    Good luck.
    The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win you're still a rat.
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    Just my luck!

    Yeah, of course with my luck I'm interested in all the competitive fields! I'd be happy with internal med too though, I guess. But if I'm gonna go through all the time and effort of medicine, I might as well make it worth my while by getting paid well, you know? To be honest, I love Peds, but the pay isn't all that great. I'd love to do Derm, ENT or Oph...all the competitive fields! We'll see what happens. You think I have an advantage over other IMGs since I was born and raised in the U.S.? What speciality are you interested in blueeyes?

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    US experience?

    I don't know how your medical school works, but do you have any clinical rotations in the US?

    You stated that this is your final year and final exams are in October, does that mean you will graduate?

    It seems as though you haven't done any USMLE exams yet. If you start studying for USMLE Step1, and do it this summer, you may still have a chance to match for next year (2006). If you postpone it and the other USMLE exams, you will not be able to start residency till 2007.

    Being an IMG without US Clinical experience and wanting to get into a "competitive" residency is most probably going to be next to impossible...i'm sure there are some who have done it, but I would have back-up plans in case it doesn't work out. Uou might want to consider doing a 5th pathway year or "transitional year" here to really get your hands dirty in US soil....:-)

    Hope this provides some insight....

    A.

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    If you are in your final year and then you will graduate then you will not be able to do clinical rotations. If you are done in october and your goal is to come back to the US then your first job will be to do USMLE step 1, 2, and 3 and CS. This will be easy for you to come back to the US and do all three here. This will take you probably a year to do this but your goal should be to do all this before June because I believe ENT is an early match. You are in a good position to also do research in ENT if you want to obtain it as a residency and try to do it at a more prominent program if possible for letters of rec. YOur step 1 and 2 scores as well as your rec letters will be important for ENT. Perhpas if you cant do research I would recommend observership in ENT to obtain letters.
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    Us sucks

    Forget it gal...the US is backwards...India is better (have servants et al).
    Get reality check, forget the US. cheers from the UK

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    This is so complicated!

    Ok, so by the time I'm done with finals it'll be around Thanksgiving. I should be going home shortly after. I was thinking that as soon as I go home I'll join Kaplan and take step 1. How many months do you think it will take me to study it thoroughly enough to get a kick *** score? I'll be busy in May/June (I'm getting married! ) and after that I figured I'll start studying for step 2. How long will it take me to do that? After that I figured I'd do some rotations while at the same time applying to programs and what not. I have no ambitions of applying for '06, its next to impossible. But I am aiming for '07. If for some reason (GOD FORBID!) I dont make the '07 match, I guess I'll just spend the year doing rotations or reasearch or something. Other than IM, Peds, Psych and FP, what other residencies are more receptive to IMG's? I heard anesthesiology and radiology arent TOO hard to get into, is that true? And as far as staying in India, HELL NO! I've been here for the last 5 years, away from home, family friends and my now fiance, busting my *** to get a medical degree. I've had enough!

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    hi,
    first of all congratulations on your coming marriage! let me ask you a question. are you boy or girl? if you are a boy i hope you realise how much responsitbility getting married will put on u. expectations are specially high for boys to be able to support the girl they marry. weigh all your options.
    this is for both boys and girls -do you think you will be able to study amidst all these fun activities going on? you seem to be originally from india . am i right? then i know exactly what goes on during and after u get married. been through it myself. there are so many things going on and things dont start settling down before an year atleast.
    i'm not saying this to discourage you or anything, but just look before u leap. if you want to have to enjoy life it would probably be better for you to take at least ur step1 and 2 before you get married.
    you do have the option of doing your internship (housejob) in USA, but you have to do it exactly as they require u to do in your med school. that might be a bit of a problem coz you will have to personally call up doctors in all the various fields you want to rotate in and ask them if thye would take you. not all will agree and when they do agree dates might clash and things of those nature. some might take you on for free and some you might have to pay to take you on. after you are done you will have to take the proof of externship to your med school , get their approval and get your self registered. if folks at your school are good about these things thats really good otherwise in some places they might not like it and create problems for you. the best thing for you would probably be to ask them beforehand what there take is on stuff of this nature. and just to be sure ask around and find out if somebody's actually done this from ur school.talk to them and get it straight from the horses mouth.
    its a long way to go yes. i had wanted to do something like this but ultimately decided to do internship at my college. better safe than sorry. didnt want to spend forever doing internship/housejob. it would have taken atleast 1 and a half to 2 yrs to do the thing over here. better to save time and finish it in india in 1year.
    you might even get time to study for step 1&2 in india .if u did the same thing over here u'd have to be extraordinarily hardworking and intelligent to do well and juggle your marriage and career at same same time.
    best of luck for everything. hope things work out well for you.

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    some advice

    Anesthesia and Radiology are competitive but I think ENT is more so than the first two. Since you are realistic about your timeframe you should be fine. I think 07 match is good it will give you enough time to take all your steps and do some research or observorship for ENT. THis will help you tremendously to have everything done (all your steps) before you apply. If they see that you have done well in step 1, 2, and 3 it will help you.
    THere is no good timeframe to study to do well in step 1. It depends on you and how comfortable you feel. I took 7 weeks straight no course 7 days a week with like maybe 2 days off in the middle. I read Kaplan books cover to cover, over 2500 questions, and first aid in the last 2 weeks for review. But having step 1 CK and CS and step 2 results before you apply will benefit you (if your step 2 is the same or higher than step 1).
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    I'm a girl!

    Thanks for all the advice so far everyone, it's so helpful. As far as personal responsibilities, I was born and raised in America, as was my fiance. My dad, however, was brought up in India. As far as responsibilities go, there wont be too many since neither my family nor my fiances are too traditional. I'm not too concerned about that. Not to mention, my fiance will hopefully be starting his residency in July '06 so he'll be quite busy himself. As far as having my externship transferred, I think you're right. It might just end up being more of a hassle than a time saver. After getting all this information from all of you, I think the best thing for me to do is spend next year studying for step 1 and 2 and then doing a couple rotations in fields that I have interest in. I definetly want to be done with step 1 before May '06. I think step 2 may be pushing it. I dont want to rush myself and end up doing a sloppy job. What do you think? I wrote to some residency programs that I have interest in asking them if they would allow me to do a rotation, so I'll let you all know what type of a response I get.

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