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    extra month of USCE vs. applying on time

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    If you have to choose between getting an extra month of USCE (and LoR) and submitting residency apps on 9/1, which would you choose?

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    Depends on how much USCE and how many good LORs you already have. If you have enough, then I would apply on 9/1 to be eligible for as many interviews as possible... you can add in the other stuff later if you want.

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    hey devildoc

    I will have 2 USCE and hopefully 2 US LoR's (can't guarantee they'll be good ones) by 9/1. My goal is to have CS and CK scores ready by 9/1. If I go for another USCE i will need to postpone app submission by at least a month.

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    Not really. You can always update your application with additional information -- and in fact, that could give you a built-in excuse to contact programs regarding the new information you have added to your file. Assuming your letters don't suck and everything else is complete, I would totally apply on 9/1. Later application can definitely cut down on your number of interviews.

    (Why would you ask anyone for an LOR if you did not know whether it would be a good one?)

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    So are you suggesting that I should go for that 3rd month of USCE, apply on 9/1, then submit CK score a bit later?
    I don't know if the LoR will be good or just general (but certainly not "bad"). The way it's set up at my program is that the fellows run the show here. The attendings are usually in the clinic and pop into surgeries once in a while. I unfortunately are assigned to assist in surgeries most of the week, therefore my attending doesn't know me that well, he is a friendly guy though.

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    What? No... why would you wait to complete 2CK? You said that your goal would be to have 2CS and 2CK ready for 9/1 application, right?

    I recommend making sure everything is ready to go on 9/1, and applying on that day. Later, when your third month of USCE is complete and you have an additional LOR, update your application with that important information. With any luck you might already have some interviews by the time you update, depending on your application strength and to which specialties you are applying.
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    FYI - if ERAS 2014 is similar to this year, then you'll probably be first able to submit ERAS (residency app) on 9/15. in which field(s) are you applying? I would first research the programs you'll be applying to see what their minimum USCE requirements are -- that might help answer your question. like devildoc said, while you can submit ERAS without scores or LORs, you'll limit the number of interviews, which can hurt you later on. as an IMG, you want both CS and CK in before 9/1 to be safe, 9/15 at the latest. ditto for LORs. Also keep in mind that as the deadline nears, the processing time for LORs in particular, increases. I think it took one of my letters 2-3 weeks to show up on ERAS because it was uploaded a week before 9/15
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    Good point, cbella. I forgot that this year it was 9/15!
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    No worries! Two weeks can make a hell of a difference
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    Thank you cbella and devilDoc for the suggestions and info
    I'm asking this is because I'm graduating in June, but I can postpone it to July/August to do an extra clerkship. I still need to take CS and CK which will probably take me 3months total to prepare (1month cs, 2months ck). And I'm not able to study during a clerkship; i have been doing a lot of man's best friend work for 10-12 hours a day. So for now 2 months of clerkship +3months of studying will keep me occupied until August, but if i add another month of clerkship in there it would be September. I will keep in mind what I have been advised and make a decision. Thank you guys again.

    bcella: I'm applying to both IM and FM, and yes I have found out that some programs require minimum 3 or even 1 yr of USCE, thank you for the reminder!

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