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    Irish family physician / opd or advanced level entry family med residency

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    I am an irish family physician looking to get licensure and board certified in usa, i am hoping to avoid a full residency and get reciprocation for my irish degree of micgp. Has any uk or new zealand or australian based family doc been through the process?

    Can anybody offer advice ? If so what states grant medical licensure for foreign family docs? What is it like to work if one takes this path ? Are there out patient based only or advanced level entry residencies if i had to do one ?

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    As far as I know you can't get advanced standing...US state licensing policies require completion of an ACGME or AOA residency for licensure
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    You can get Advanced standing in Canada. I personally know Irish Physicians who have relocated and are practicing in Canada. PM me with your info, and e-mail ad. if interested,.

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    thanks for the info, yes I have the MICGP qualified from University college cork in Ireland and want to work in the USA but not sure best path to take, have done step 1 got 94 and doing step 2 in 2 months, rather avoid full residency e mail is afsplace @ hotmail . com thanks again

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    UC-Cork is California approved. I don't know who told you that you could not train/practice in California, but they were wrong. There is no guarantee of bypassing the internship year, you would need to talk with the individual programs about that. Good luck!

    (It might be faster to look at Canada -- coming from a Commonwealth country is probably a lot easier, and if Brolle's post is correct you would save yourself at least two years.)

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    thanks again for the advice greatly appreciated , indeed my medical degree is accepted in all states but I was referring to my Irish family medicine residency qualification ( the MICGP) this is apparently accepted in some states like new york but not in california , i think best thing to do is contact individual states to ask if they recognise my residency training from Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by afsplace View Post
    thanks again for the advice greatly appreciated , indeed my medical degree is accepted in all states but I was referring to my Irish family medicine residency qualification ( the MICGP) this is apparently accepted in some states like new york but not in california , i think best thing to do is contact individual states to ask if they recognise my residency training from Ireland
    please post what you find out...i'm sure there would be many many people here that would want to know that their foreign residency program would be accepted, but as i posted before, not heard of a state allowing this to happen.
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    there is good news as from several sources now i have discovered that anyone who has trained in uk or irish or australia or new zealand ( I don't know about other countries ) has a very good chance of full unrestricted license from several states even without board certification. the situation varies depending on Visa status etc , I suggest people contact a licensing firm to find out about their unique situations


    a company sent me this e mail

    Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, in your case, since your training was done in Ireland, it is possible to obtain licensure in some States. Are you board certified in your specialty area?

    NH, ME, NY, PA will license docs who were trained in Ireland on a case-by-case basis. There's usually a better chance if you're board certified.



    this above was a company called medicallicensedirect

    physicianlicensing said the same , she said make sure you do not fail usmle as it may hinder the process


    hope it helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by afsplace View Post
    there is good news as from several sources now i have discovered that anyone who has trained in uk or irish or australia or new zealand ( I don't know about other countries ) has a very good chance of full unrestricted license from several states even without board certification. the situation varies depending on Visa status etc , I suggest people contact a licensing firm to find out about their unique situations


    a company sent me this e mail

    Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, in your case, since your training was done in Ireland, it is possible to obtain licensure in some States. Are you board certified in your specialty area?

    NH, ME, NY, PA will license docs who were trained in Ireland on a case-by-case basis. There's usually a better chance if you're board certified.



    this above was a company called medicallicensedirect

    physicianlicensing said the same , she said make sure you do not fail usmle as it may hinder the process


    hope it helps
    if i were you, i would call the state license boards individually. although its promising that this company gave you this info, its still a third party. secondly, i was under the impression that to become board certified (osteopathic or allopathic), you need to be board eligible which is to finish an ACMGE or AOA residency. once again, you should call the american board of family medicine for that directly, not a third party company.
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    found this from the american board of family medicine website..... maybe it is possible to be board certified after doing a foreign residency program afterall.

    The Board prefers all three years of postgraduate training to be in the same ACGME-accredited Family Medicine program; however, other training may be considered as equivalent (e.g., Flexible/Transitional Year, AOA Osteopathic Internship, etc.). In these cases and for physicians who have had international training, the American Board of Family Medicine requires residency programs to notify the ABFM of residents who are entering training with Advanced Placement credit. If the Program Director fails to comply, the Board will determine the amount of transfer credit at the time of its discovery of the transfer. Consequently, the resident may receive less credit toward certification than anticipated and may be required to extend the duration of training.

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