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    popozao is offline Permanently Banned 510 points
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    How hard is it to get into a 'fmg-unfriendly' residency?

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    we like to throw around the img-friendly term when referring to residencies.

    but how good do you have to be to get into a hospital that is not so img-friendly?

    Anyone have any personal stories to share?

    Is it generally the case that the caribbean fmg has to whoop the US grad by 20 points across the board to knock him out of that residency spot?

    or do the img-unfriendly places generally not take caribs regardless of how good they are? lack of faith?

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    unfriendly

    For residencies, it would appear that they either 'take fmg's' or do not. Just remember that while you might hear of a particular hospital being 'fmg unfriendly', it is really a program by program issue. This is also the case with fellowship spots...the program director has the ability to choose. Something to keep in mind: Some politically correct individuals will tell you "we take fmg's" but if their resident roster on the facility website only shows U.S. grads for the last 10 years, odds are that they're not getting in this year. The sad thing is that you have to do this research into who is going to even consider you for an interview and who is not because the cost to you as an NRMP applicant is phenominal (never had to spell that word before, might be way off...i'm only on my second cup of coffee this morning). I'm going to add to this discussion the following for those who it pertains to because it is along the same lines:

    For clinical rotations:

    Usually img 'unfriendly' places really means they dont take fmg's at all. Scheduling elective rotations sometimes means alot of phone calls to the hospitals you're considering, and the first question should be "do you take fmg's for senior visiting electives". But on the bright side, you might try saying "if I have a sponsor from one of your departments, can you schedule me for a rotation...I'm an fmg" because then they tend to pay more attention...sponsor being the key. They know you have (or may obtain) backup from a PD, and they might consider you even if they are known to be fmg unfriendly. One more thing to consider is that programs are more likely to take in a student for a rotation if that student expresses a specific interest in their program. For this reason, if you are considering applying to this program for residency, and you want an inside view of 'a day in the life of...', tell the person in charge of schedule rotations that. They are more likely to take a future residency applicant in for a rotation than just anyone. You could construct a good email to the clinical coordinator, but the phone is best so you can get a good feel of reactions and 'discuss' your situation more.
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    1. A major stumbling block vis a vis the IMG-unfriendly places is, that they simply don't want to deal with the paperwork or hazzle of sponsoring you for a work visa. So, if you're a US citizen or have a Green Card, your options will expand, even coming from a foreign med school.

    2. Yes, I think it's fair to say that you need to be better (higher USMLE scores etc) than a US grad, to be considered equally competitive. Not really unreasonable, since the US grad will come from a known quantity, ie a LCME-accredited school. The foreign grad could be coming from a hut in the Carib., so PD's would like to see something extra, before choosing a more unknown applicant...

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    Impossible to answer. Truly program specific.

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