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    goldfish85 is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    what residency gives the most free time?

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    Here is a question out of curiosity,...

    which residencies give the most free time? IE:enough to go to gym, relax on weekends, spend a little time with family and to self, etc?

    I know it may vary per institution but what is the general agreement?

    PS: it does not matter how long the residency is, or competitive, or so on, just wanted to know which are most relaxed with enough free time to have a decent life outside of med.

    thanks.

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    Alot of this depends on the individual institutions: but I would say pretty much any nonsurgical specialty like IM, FP, Peds. you will have some life. I am in a IM residency and I feel like when I am not on a call month, I have quite a bit of free time. Every place is different though.
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    EM. generally shift work, unless you are off service. some of the schedules i have heard blow my mind (ie 16 8 or10 hour shifts per month. for a resident!

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    thanks.

    thanks for the replies. really helpful you mentioned non surgical residencies...

    just curious (again i know it varies) but how much free time are we talking about? 50 hr a week? 40? is there a general range

    again this is for residency only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator98MD
    Alot of this depends on the individual institutions: but I would say pretty much any nonsurgical specialty like IM, FP, Peds. you will have some life. I am in a IM residency and I feel like when I am not on a call month, I have quite a bit of free time. Every place is different though.
    thanks.

    curious... how much free time have you had?


    so are IM, FP, and peds all take up the same amount of time generally?

    how about psych? obgyn? pathology? PM&R? radiology? neurology? anesth? and how about fellowships? are they heavy on hours?

    in your opinion, how would you rank them on time. (of course no one has done all of these residencies.. but generally what is the consensus)

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    When I am on a noncall month I would say I work and average of 8-10 hour days with nights and weekends off. I am in the ED this month which consists of 14- 12 hour shifts. Needless to say , this month I have lots of free time.

    Quote Originally Posted by goldfish85
    thanks for the replies. really helpful you mentioned non surgical residencies...

    just curious (again i know it varies) but how much free time are we talking about? 50 hr a week? 40? is there a general range

    again this is for residency only...
    God must be a Florida Gator fan because everyday at sunset the sky turns orange and blue!!!

    Its great to be a Florida Gator and IM Board Certified!!

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    i think in almost every residency (again, program dependant) you will have 80 hour weeks at least sometimes. in general, non call IM, FP, Peds months would likely be in the 50-60 hour range at most places. EM will be 40--60 per week on service, for the most part. but, you will still have ICU, surg and other such rotations to cover, for the occasional rough month. and, don't forget other specialties like gas, rads, pm&r, etc. which have less hours.

    the way i have looked at work hours during residency is a bit different. i basically have decided that the next 4 years are to be spent learning what i will do for the rest of my life. at no other point in my carreer will i be able to learn and refine my skills with dedicated instructors. the goal is to leave residency and not to be worried about what will walk through my clinic door. so, if that takes 88 hours per week, so be it. i think that focusing on a low number of overall hours puts you at risk for having a less thorough training. use the residency time wisely, work hard. if you don't learn it in residency, where will you learn it? after residency, work less if you want.

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    ive never under stood this, are these 60-80 hours/week really EVERY week? or does it really vary a lot.. do some weeks only go for 40 hours and others 80 then? but i mean 80 hours a week, thats pretty bad. thats around 14-16 hours in a day. how do you even stand for so long!

    thanks for the advice, great stuff.

    also, 8-10 hours a day is not too shabby. thanks for the person perspective as well.

    gator you work 14-12 hour shift? ! and you said you have free time? was that sarcasm?

    once again thanks

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    I wouldnt even venture a guess about the hours for Rads, anesthesia, PM&R, etc. I have no idea but i suspect they are long. As far as fellowships, you really dont work that much less than in residency, the only benefit is that you are doing very specific work in an area that you chose.
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    optho, rads, radonc, derm, anesthesia
    if you do an im residency and then fellowship- rhum, endo, etc

    THe bottom line is being a doctor means there is really no 9-5 job. You stay until the work is done even in the lifestyle friendly fields. If you feel yourself trying to get a leg out of the door when there is stuff to do...that is very dangerous. Most professional jobs aren't 9-5 (lawyer, banker etc). If you like the job a 10 hour day is no biggie. But also take the long view. A difficult residency for a reasonable career may be worth it. I have a friend who is a neuro surgeon who said residency is now easier than being attending because of the work hours protection for residencts (and even that isnt "easy"). A few have said they love surgery but if they knew then what they know now they'd never have doen it. so take the long view. but again if you find yourslef kicking after 8 hours on the job, this may be the wrong field for you. decide now before you go to med school.
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