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    Say no to UAE and U.S. deal on Port deal!!

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    Bush and congress showdown on port deal, very confusing!!!

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    https://secure.afa.net/afa/afapetiti...ion.asp?id=187

    Let's not just bloviate, here's a link to send an email to the Pres. Sometimes he just goes too far in his efforts to be PC. There are a ton of other things I would like him to break out the pen for, but this one...
    "When you educate a man beyond his intelligence, you create a menace to society."

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    I'm not sure if it's just my computer, but it looks like you may have to clear out MY contact info and put yours in there.
    "When you educate a man beyond his intelligence, you create a menace to society."

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    I can't believe I wanted that job and was denied it all.
    Maybe we, port watchers, don't know how to do it the right way.
    I need to think about something...maybe you know what...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDXRS22
    I can't believe I wanted that job and was denied it all.
    Maybe we, port watchers, don't know how to do it the right way.
    Maybe we, the US, should not let another country - not even the British - control our ports. That just seems really counterintuitive. I had no idea until now that anyone beside the US had control of ports. Call me ignorant.
    "When you educate a man beyond his intelligence, you create a menace to society."

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    It's not a question of racism, just common sense. We're not labelling Islam as the Enemy Religion as we did the Japanese by calling them the Enemy Race. And for the vast majority of Muslims, they are good law abiding people.

    But the probabilities of a few nut jobs, easily swayed or whacked jobs that can be persuaded to do some very harmful smuggling is just too dangerous. Just look at the British muslims how actually a significant percentage would NOT inform authorities of a terrorist attack and a vast majority would try "talking" to the terrorists first or anything but alert the government first. Scary stuff.
    Posterior Fornix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandwife
    I'm not sure if it's just my computer, but it looks like you may have to clear out MY contact info and put yours in there.
    Don't worry, I think it's just your computer.
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    "The UAE is not exactly stuffed stem to stern with pro-American individuals; the idea that the emirs will stand foursquare against infiltration by those who have ulterior motives is the sort of wishful thinking that makes buildings fall and cities empty. Im not worried that some evil emir is putting a pinky to his monocled eye, and saying Mwah! at last I have them where I want them! Im worried about the guy whos three steps down the management branch handing off a job to a brother who trusts some guys who have some sympathies with some guys who hang around some rather energetic fellows who attend that one mosque where the guy talks about jihad 24/7, and somehow someone gets a job somewhere that makes it easier for something to happen."

    That is the best articulation to the opposition of the UAE deal I have seen yet.

    "When you educate a man beyond his intelligence, you create a menace to society."

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    What a bunch of hooey. The entire brouhaha is being egged on by the Democrats because they want xenophobe vote to swing the other way.
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    WASHINGTON, Feb. 22, 2006

    (CBS) This commentary was written by CBSNews.com's **** Meyer.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1335531.shtml

    Myth #1: An Arab company is trying to buy six American ports.

    No, the company is buying up a British company that leases terminals in American ports; the ports are U.S.-owned. To lease a terminal at a U.S. port means running some business operations there -- contracting with shipping lines, loading and unloading cargo and hiring local labor. Dubai Ports World is not buying the ports.

    Several companies will lease terminals at a single port. In New Orleans, for example, the company Dubai Ports World is trying to buy (P&O Ports) is just one of eight companies that lease and operate terminals.

    P&O Ports does business in 18 other countries. None of them are in righteous lathers about the sale of the business to a company owned by the United Arab Emirates. Dubai Ports World already operates port facilities all over the world, including such security-slacker states as China, Australia, Korea and Germany.


    Myth #2: The U.S. is turning over security at crucial ports to an Arab company.

    No, security at U.S. ports is controlled by U.S. federal agencies led by the Coast Guard and the U.S. Customs and Border Control Agency, which are part of the Homeland Security department. Local jurisdictions also provide police and security personnel.

    Complaints about security at ports should be directed to the federal government.


    Myth #3: American ports should be American.

    Well, it's too late, baby. According to James Jay Carafano of the Heritage Foundation (a place really known for its Arab-loving, soft-on-terror approach), "Foreign companies already own most of the maritime infrastructure that sustains American trade" Thirty per cent of the countries port terminals are operated by companies that are, um, unAmerican.

    At the port of Los Angeles, 80 per cent of the terminals are operated by foreign companies. Chinese companies operate more than half the terminals. So why is this suddenly a threat? After all, political outcry managed to scupper the deal a few months ago in which a Chinese company was going to take over the Unocal oil company.

    Remember the global economy? Internationally, 24 of the 25 largest companies that operate port terminals aren't American. That means just aboust every container that enters a U.S. port has come from a foreign-controlled facilty.

    Go to any port in the country and you'll be lucky to see a single giant vessel with U.S.A. on its stern. Foreign-owned airplanes fly into American airports every hour. Many U.S. companies have foreign entities among their largest shareholders.

    My colleague Charlie Wolfson reports that State Department sources say Dubai Ports World already handles port calls for U.S. Navy ships from the 5th fleet for their regular port calls in the United Arab Emirates -- a pretty high measure of trustworthiness.

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