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    Hi,
    I am a freshman (Undergraduate) at a small private college in New York City. I am doing pre-med and was interested in going abroad for medical school, I am not a genius but I do work fairly hard and I want to be a doctor very badly. I just wanted to get opinions from people about medical schools either in the caribbean, or elsewhere. I want to know the chances I have if I had a low gpa or bad mcat scores. I also wanted to know if I can practice in the US. Thanks so much.

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    try to bust your **** in undergard get a 3.5 and 28+ on mcat and you have a good shot at US MD or DO schools. exhaust all options in the US then and only then look outside because you will have a harder time getting competitive residencies coming from offshore

    1)US MD and DO schools
    2)consider 'real" foreign schools in ireland, australia, israel
    3)consider the 3 carib schools that cater to US students have stafford federal loans, california, new york, and texas approvals. these are AUC, SGU, and Ross
    4)consider SABA which has all of number 2 except federal loans and texas
    *for the above schools the usual GPAs are above 3.0 and mcats are above 26 or so
    all schools below are downhill in admission reqs and you need lower and lower scores. also the above schools will give you licensceability in all the US while the ones below will limit you to 30-40 or so states depending on which state has banned them, restriced etc.

    5)if you didn;t get in onw above review your application strenghten it and re do steps 1-4
    6)no go after redoing application then take a look at AUA, SMU, MUA-nevis which have new york approval

    *a few schools have been hanging and making improvements or just slowly turning out residents. these tend to be lower priced, staffed by professors that were not trained in the US and may have no experience teaching US med schools..some hire recent med school grads studying for their own boards and leave as soon as they pass and some have hired med stduents to teach classes in their fields (forner phds) these may or maynot be good things i tend to think that teaching US med stduents is probably best while someone worrying about passing their own boards probably has little interest really teaching you but have never been through it so i maybe way off

    7)st james, windsor, spartan
    8)if you can't get accepted to any of the above really reconsider carreer choice, maybe do a bost bach program to strenghten application any others go way downhill from there
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    I'd just like to add to AUCMD's list at no. 2 - the "real foreign schools". Consider also the English language MD courses in Czech Rep., Poland and Hungary. They are also generally reputable, their graduates widely licensable (some in all 50 U.S. states), and have the advantage of being considerably cheaper than the Irish option for example.
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    thanks

    thanks for the info, it helps a lot, i am interested in the english programs in europe what do people know about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUCMD2006 View Post
    try to bust your **** in undergard get a 3.5 and 28+ on mcat and you have a good shot at US MD or DO schools. exhaust all options in the US then and only then look outside because you will have a harder time getting competitive residencies coming from offshore

    1)US MD and DO schools
    2)consider 'real" foreign schools in ireland, australia, israel
    3)consider the 3 carib schools that cater to US students have stafford federal loans, california, new york, and texas approvals. these are AUC, SGU, and Ross
    4)consider SABA which has all of number 2 except federal loans and texas
    *for the above schools the usual GPAs are above 3.0 and mcats are above 26 or so
    all schools below are downhill in admission reqs and you need lower and lower scores. also the above schools will give you licensceability in all the US while the ones below will limit you to 30-40 or so states depending on which state has banned them, restriced etc.

    5)if you didn;t get in onw above review your application strenghten it and re do steps 1-4
    6)no go after redoing application then take a look at AUA, SMU, MUA-nevis which have new york approval

    *a few schools have been hanging and making improvements or just slowly turning out residents. these tend to be lower priced, staffed by professors that were not trained in the US and may have no experience teaching US med schools..some hire recent med school grads studying for their own boards and leave as soon as they pass and some have hired med stduents to teach classes in their fields (forner phds) these may or maynot be good things i tend to think that teaching US med stduents is probably best while someone worrying about passing their own boards probably has little interest really teaching you but have never been through it so i maybe way off

    7)st james, windsor, spartan
    8)if you can't get accepted to any of the above really reconsider carreer choice, maybe do a bost bach program to strenghten application any others go way downhill from there
    That's some good advice!

    Just wanted to add: As a "Premed" student, you might want to ease into your undergrad schedule maybe putting off some of the harder prerequisite courses until you already have some good momentum behind you. Get your time mgmt down. Maybe even change your major to somehting like History or Psych. US Med Schools have been accepting a higher and higher percentage of Humanities majors who also do very well in their Premed requirements. I see SOOO many transcripts from good students who had trouble transitioning into college because they overestimate their ability to handle the load, then were able to turn everything around to end up with a 3.40+ at the end. Only thing is even with a decent MCAT (28+) you would have trouble getting into a US Med school with numbers like that. Maybe not DO schools...but an allopathic school for sure.

    If you have a NAAHP advisor at your school, make an appointment and discuss this with them.

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    Thanks for the advice, I am a psych major but also pre-med which is good. Again thanks so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipton View Post
    If you have a NAAHP advisor at your school, make an appointment and discuss this with them.
    is that like a prehealth professions adviser? in my experience, these people only want to help you if you are the stereotypical 3.5+GPA 30+MCAT med school applicant. some will laugh if you tell them you are considering the cairbbean.

    i guess my point is its good to get help, but some of these people arent concerned about what you can do, but rather what they think you CAN'T do
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    Quote Originally Posted by kemper6036 View Post
    is that like a prehealth professions adviser? in my experience, these people only want to help you if you are the stereotypical 3.5+GPA 30+MCAT med school applicant. some will laugh if you tell them you are considering the cairbbean.
    Actually...the pre-health advising program at my school helps anybody who requests assistance. I have a 3.4 and 24T and rather than tell me only that I should hold off....they suggested other options...including the Caribbean.

    But...I guess it's different for every school. If you have the program...definitely utilize it.
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    My premed advisor wont talk to me
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    yeah...a lot of schools will only help (and keep track) of applicants who have a decent shot at getting in so that they can keep their acceptance stats up....it's pretty awful....but people suck.
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