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    [PharmD] Getting Licesned in order to return to USA/CANADA

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    Recently there have been complaints made on this forum about becoming a licensed pharmacist in Poland. Many people have posted there take on how to do it, and majority of it is wrong. Therefore I am making this thread to explain how to get licensed in Poland.

    USA

    In order to return to the United States one must become a licensed pharmacist in Poland before you can send your papers stateside. The process consists of a 30-45min interview where the applicant must present a Basic understanding of the Polish language. There are no written exams or mandatory hours you just need to do the Interview.

    After completing the interview they tell you if received a positive or negative result, and if you receive a positive result there is some paperwork to do.

    This process takes around 2 months to do, and for American students this is the only way right now to get licensed in Poland. In the future this might change, but candidates that are looking to come here should be prepared to learn a basic understanding of the Polish language.

    If anyone wants more information about this then just ask and I will provide it.


    Canada

    There are two ways to get your papers approved by the PEBC. They are present in the following which is taken from the PEBC document evaluation information pdf.

    Instructions for licensing statements

    - We require a licensing statement be sent to PEBC directly from all licensing authorities by which you are currently licensed

    - Your licensing statement is a letter stating you are currently licensed and in good standing

    - The issue date of your licensing statement must be within one month of the date we receive it

    - If your licensing authority will not send it themselves, you may have a courier pick up your licensing statement directly from the licensing authority and deliver it to PEBC; the sender’s address must be that of the licensing authority.

    - We will not accept your licensing statement if it has been given to you or anyone else first. Do not send your licensing statement with your application as it will not be accepted.

    TRANSLATIONS: If your licensing statement is issued in a language other than English or French you will also need to request a copy of the licensing statement for yourself and have an official translation of it made that you will attach to your copy of the original language licensing statement and send to us yourself.
    Please note the specific licensing authorities for the following countries:
    IRAN – Medical Council or Ministry of Health and Medical Education
    ISRAEL – Ministry of Health
    SYRIA – Ministry of Health

    IF YOU ARE NOT CURRENTLY LICENSED:

    - You must submit a statutory declaration made before a Notary Public, Commissioner for Oaths, a lawyer or The Canadian Embassy, that states specifically that you are not currently licensed anywhere in the world and provides a brief explanation of the reason you are not currently licensed.

    - You can send PEBC this document yourself
    Therefore you DO NOT need to be licensed in Poland in order to return to Canada which means you DO NOT need to take any interviews in Polish.

    More information may be found here http://www.pebc.ca/EnglishGraphics/D...Packet2010.pdf

    I hope this explains everything and if anyone has any questions just ask and I will answer them.
    Last edited by G48030; 07-14-2011 at 08:31 PM. Reason: Added link

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    Hello,
    I'm just back from my interview in Poznan for the 5 years DDS.they said i have been on a waiting list??? opinions is that mean i have been rejected???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownsugar View Post
    Hello,
    I'm just back from my interview in Poznan for the 5 years DDS.they said i have been on a waiting list??? opinions is that mean i have been rejected???????
    It means that you are on a list of candidates and that they will review your application like they do with everyone. I'm sure they will give an answer shortly.

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    I realize this is an old thread. I hope you're still here.

    I'm from the US and looking for a pharmacy school in Europe. I've always had an interest in Poland and would love to learn the language, and perhaps even stay there to work. Surely, after 5 or 6 years I would be able to learn Polish at a high enough level to pass the licensing exam. I would like to have the option of working in a community pharmacy, a hospital, or in the pharmaceutical industry. I also need to be able to use a US student loan.

    I'd really appreciate it if you could speak to any of the above.

    Is the MSc being phased out? Will your degree actually say something like Doctor of Pharmacy?
    How many students are in the pharmacy program? What is its reputation locally in terms of being a "good" school?
    What do you think about the organization and professionalism of the department?

    Any information would be appreciated.
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomfuddle View Post
    I realize this is an old thread. I hope you're still here.

    I'm from the US and looking for a pharmacy school in Europe. I've always had an interest in Poland and would love to learn the language, and perhaps even stay there to work. Surely, after 5 or 6 years I would be able to learn Polish at a high enough level to pass the licensing exam. I would like to have the option of working in a community pharmacy, a hospital, or in the pharmaceutical industry. I also need to be able to use a US student loan.

    I'd really appreciate it if you could speak to any of the above.

    Is the MSc being phased out? Will your degree actually say something like Doctor of Pharmacy?
    How many students are in the pharmacy program? What is its reputation locally in terms of being a "good" school?
    What do you think about the organization and professionalism of the department?

    Any information would be appreciated.
    Thank you
    For the interview you only need to know enough Polish to hold a conversation. They will ask questions like how old are you? Who was your mentor during your thesis project? What part of Poland did you enjoy the most? etc.

    If you do receive a positive result you can work in Poland. Also the degree is valid in anywhere in the EU, as long as you pass the language tests in the given country. I believe that 6 years is enough time to learn the language I know some people that speak a decent amount after a year. It all depends on how much effort and time you put into it.

    The pharmD degree allows you to work in any of the settings you listed. Yes the MSc. program is phased out my year was the last year to be in it, but we got switched over. The degree will say Doctor of Pharmacy. We have around 30 students in all the years, majority of them are from Canada/USA.

    The university was rated the #1 medical school in Poland in 2009, and once again in 2011. The pharmacy department is still young (aprox. 5-6 years old), but I personally believe it's structured well, and the Profs are always professional, and helpful.

    If you want any more information just pm your email.

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    pharmD3rdyear

    Hello
    Can you please tell me if you are staisfied with this school or not? How much is the fee? Do day have payment plans? Were you admitted as 3rd year? I live in US and I have done the pre req done. Very frastrated with schools here. Do you think one can finish quicker? Is it really true that one has to get pharmacy license from there in order to apply in US? Any useful information will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you
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    As a pharmacy graduate in europe, I just wanted to warn prospective students that wish to study pharmacy in europe, that curricular-wise eurpean degrees are a LOT different from their USA counterpart (with some exceptions such as the UK). European degrees are not patient centred, you will study less or no (depending on the country) clinical pharmacy/patient care/pharmacotherapy. Instead you will hit a lot on basic science that extends from the beginning until the end of the degree (organic chemistry, analytical chemistry, general chemistry I, II, III you name it, cell and molecular biology, biochemistry etc.) and some applied science (tons of pharmaceutics/pharmaceutical technology, some pharmacotherapy, toxicology, biotechnology, medicinal chemistry, not much clinical stuff).
    I stumbled upon this difference when I intended to migrate to the USA and take the board exams. I quickly realized that I would have to study a lot more than I anticipated. It felt like doing a different degree all over again.
    This difference is mainly due to the fact that clinical pharmacy is almost absent all over europe (again, the UK being a good exception). It only now started to emerge, but schools have yet to meet this reality by changing the core curricula.
    In some countries the degree that create pharmacists is not even called pharmacy, but pharmaceutical sciences. This might not be the case with Poznan, but it happens so my advice is to chose your program wisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pharmD2b View Post
    pharmD3rdyear

    Hello
    Can you please tell me if you are staisfied with this school or not? How much is the fee? Do day have payment plans? Were you admitted as 3rd year? I live in US and I have done the pre req done. Very frastrated with schools here. Do you think one can finish quicker? Is it really true that one has to get pharmacy license from there in order to apply in US? Any useful information will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you
    overall I'm satisfied with the school. There are areas the school excels in, and there are areas the school lacks in. I would say the for a program that is only a few years old it's pretty good.

    The fee is around $10000 to $12000 USD depending on the exchange rate. The payment is split into two payments which are paid during the first semester and second semester.

    I was admitted into the first year of the 5 year MSc. Pharmacy program. My class got switched into the 6 year PharmD program for the second year. If you have a university degree you may be accepted into the 3rd year.

    For ALL students that want to return to USA they must be licensed in Poland first. The exact details of how this works is written in the first post of this thread.



    Quote Originally Posted by Catarro View Post
    As a pharmacy graduate in europe, I just wanted to warn prospective students that wish to study pharmacy in europe, that curricular-wise eurpean degrees are a LOT different from their USA counterpart (with some exceptions such as the UK). European degrees are not patient centred, you will study less or no (depending on the country) clinical pharmacy/patient care/pharmacotherapy. Instead you will hit a lot on basic science that extends from the beginning until the end of the degree (organic chemistry, analytical chemistry, general chemistry I, II, III you name it, cell and molecular biology, biochemistry etc.) and some applied science (tons of pharmaceutics/pharmaceutical technology, some pharmacotherapy, toxicology, biotechnology, medicinal chemistry, not much clinical stuff).
    I stumbled upon this difference when I intended to migrate to the USA and take the board exams. I quickly realized that I would have to study a lot more than I anticipated. It felt like doing a different degree all over again.
    This difference is mainly due to the fact that clinical pharmacy is almost absent all over europe (again, the UK being a good exception). It only now started to emerge, but schools have yet to meet this reality by changing the core curricula.
    In some countries the degree that create pharmacists is not even called pharmacy, but pharmaceutical sciences. This might not be the case with Poznan, but it happens so my advice is to chose your program wisely.
    The program that is offered by the university in Poland is the PharmD program. We are currently the only university in Poland to offer such a program, and only one of a few universities in the EU (I believe there is only 2 more programs like this one in Hungary, and one in France. It's is a lot different then the standard BSc. or MSc. Pharmacy programs offered by majority of Europe since we learn how to work in a clinical setting.

    The first 2 years of the program are all the basic, and applied science classes. Starting in the 3rd year we begin to do more in depth pharmacy classes, also we start with basic patient care (advanced first aid, patient care, applied pharmacy). The 4th and 5th year we start doing rotations at hospitals ontop of more patient care/pharmacy classes. The program trains us to eventually work in a hospital setting once we graduate, and want to go into that pathway.

    Clinical Pharmacy up till maybe 4-5 years ago was absent everywhere. American universities are starting to switch from MSc. phamracy programs to PharmD programs. If you would of looked at the programs offered 3-4 years ago the PharmD program was just not there. Even in my province of Canada only one university offers a PharmD program.

    If I missed something just ask.

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