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    PUMS- California accredation issue

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    Hey everyone, I was accepted to the 4 yr MD program at PUMS last June for this coming August. I really want to go to this school but it bothers me that they aren't approved in CA (their polish program is, but not the english prog).

    I have called the NY office and they have told me twice now that they have submitted the application to become accredited and that they are in the process. BUT, when I called the CA licensing board I was told that about a year ago PUMS sent them an application, the board sent them a newer application to replace the one they had sent, and the board never received the new application back! So according to the borad, they aren't in the process at all...

    So, if anyone else out there is from CA or wants to one day be able to practice in CA, let me know! Maybe we can push the school into getting that application in (it's free for them to do anyway). I'm also a little concerned as to why they are telling me that they have started the process when they haven't, but I'm assuming there is just some sort of confusion.

    I figure if a few students bug them about it, they will get it in! So let me know your thoughts...

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    Good luck.

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    Yeah, good luck. Not only are there no Polish schools approved in Cali, which means they'd have to totally blaze the trail, but no 4-year European program in English period is approved. Don't go to a 4-year European program if you have your heart set on California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danse4life View Post
    I have called the NY office and they have told me twice now that they have submitted the application to become accredited and that they are in the process. BUT, when I called the CA licensing board I was told that about a year ago PUMS sent them an application, the board sent them a newer application to replace the one they had sent, and the board never received the new application back! So according to the borad, they aren't in the process at all...

    So, if anyone else out there is from CA or wants to one day be able to practice in CA, let me know! Maybe we can push the school into getting that application in (it's free for them to do anyway). I'm also a little concerned as to why they are telling me that they have started the process when they haven't, but I'm assuming there is just some sort of confusion.
    You've done well in contacting the medical board. Now, here's the worrisome part: why is the office lying to you?

    Based on this alone, I'd go somewhere else.

    Good luck.

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    Exactly, that concerns me too. But I am trying to figure out if they are lying, or just confused! They did send in an initial application, perhaps they never got the 2nd one from the board or didn't realize they needed to fill out the new one b/c it was so similar to the first one. So, they may think that the app. is being reviewed. But if they are lying, it would be a sign that I shouldn't go there!! I will call them back this next week to try to get to the bottom of it!

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    By the way, those links are great! I wish I could find a link saying what percentage of DO's are in those specialties to compare it to fmg... Any idea on where that can be found?

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    Wish I could help you there with an exact number.

    I'd pretty much just echo here what DeepRoller said: as either a FMG or a DO, given that you have excellent stats, you can match into certain fields (barring perhaps dermatology and a select few others). The only way that the FMG thing could hamper you is if you don't come here to gain clinical experience, and the amount of states where you can practice. I wouldn't worry as much about how difficult your residency match will be as much as I'd worry how widely accepted your degree will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danse4life View Post
    By the way, those links are great! I wish I could find a link saying what percentage of DO's are in those specialties to compare it to fmg... Any idea on where that can be found?
    DOs seem to do better than IMGs in choice residencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zut Alors! View Post
    Wish I could help you there with an exact number.

    I'd pretty much just echo here what DeepRoller said: as either a FMG or a DO, given that you have excellent stats, you can match into certain fields (barring perhaps dermatology and a select few others). The only way that the FMG thing could hamper you is if you don't come here to gain clinical experience, and the amount of states where you can practice. I wouldn't worry as much about how difficult your residency match will be as much as I'd worry how widely accepted your degree will be.
    Yes and no. See this post for statistics on IMGs attaining supercompetive residencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miklos View Post
    Yes and no. See this post for statistics on IMGs attaining supercompetive residencies.
    Interesting.

    I wasn't really telling danse that because I felt she wouldn't have a hard time, as much as I was reiterating she shouldn't base her choice of school (Poland over a DO school, because she thinks she'll have a better shot at EM) just because of the specialty she thinks she wants now.

    Thanks for the links.

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