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    Going back to the US after Poland

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    Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this; hopefully some of you that know a little about the subject will answer. Anyways, is anybody familiar with the changes that are going to be occurring in relation to IMGs and matching in the US? I keep hearing that it's going to be even harder after 2016 for IMGs to go back to the US. Does anybody know why? I don't even know what to look for honestly and googling "2016 USMLE changes" doesn't really yield much of an answer. Can any of you make a personal recommendation when it comes to the path to take in Poland? There are a lot of options in Poland when it comes to medical school and it seems that sum match more people in the US than others. Can anybody from UJ give some insight on the 4 year program? Can you say that you get an actual education or does it seem like they want your money more than they want you to become a physician? How is Poznan? How is Lublin? Any information provided would be greatly appreciated. I'm kind of stuck in a bind now because I know getting into a US medical school is extremely competitive. However, once you're in then you have a very high chance of matching. Poland, on the other hand, is more a risk when it comes to going back to the US but it's easier to get in to.

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    If your goal is to work in the US, then you really do need to study medicine in the US to maximize your chances. Yes, it is harder to get in. The extra effort is worth it, if you are planning to train as a resident in the States.

    Here is the overview: The US medical schools are increasing significantly in both number and class size. It is the published, stated goal of the AAMC and ACGME to create a 1-to-1 ratio of US medical graduates to internship positions by 2016. It is my personal opinion that they will not achieve this goal in such a short time, but that is the direction they are heading... and every step closer to that ration diminishes the chances for foreign medical graduates in the US Match. As they approach that ratio, the number of foreign grads matching can quite reasonably be expected to diminish, because US grads are dramatically favored in most programs.

    The E-EU medical schools all definitely want your money -- that is the raison dŽetre for their English language programs. The E-EU schools do, however, tend to vary in their interest and effort in creating and educating competent physicians. Some are infinitely better than others, and not very many of them have 50-state approval (which unfortunately, in and of itself, is no guarantor of program quality).

    If you decide to chance it by studying overseas with a graduation date post-2016, educate yourself thoroughly about all of the options, both for study and for future practice. Visit the schools, talk with graduates, and bear in mind that there is no kind of guarantee that most foreign medical grads will be entering the US for residency training in the coming 3-5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildoc8404 View Post
    If your goal is to work in the US, then you really do need to study medicine in the US to maximize your chances. Yes, it is harder to get in. The extra effort is worth it, if you are planning to train as a resident in the States.

    Here is the overview: The US medical schools are increasing significantly in both number and class size. It is the published, stated goal of the AAMC and ACGME to create a 1-to-1 ratio of US medical graduates to internship positions by 2016. It is my personal opinion that they will not achieve this goal in such a short time, but that is the direction they are heading... and every step closer to that ration diminishes the chances for foreign medical graduates in the US Match. As they approach that ratio, the number of foreign grads matching can quite reasonably be expected to diminish, because US grads are dramatically favored in most programs.

    The E-EU medical schools all definitely want your money -- that is the raison dŽetre for their English language programs. The E-EU schools do, however, tend to vary in their interest and effort in creating and educating competent physicians. Some are infinitely better than others, and not very many of them have 50-state approval (which unfortunately, in and of itself, is no guarantor of program quality).

    If you decide to chance it by studying overseas with a graduation date post-2016, educate yourself thoroughly about all of the options, both for study and for future practice. Visit the schools, talk with graduates, and bear in mind that there is no kind of guarantee that most foreign medical grads will be entering the US for residency training in the coming 3-5 years.

    Thank you for your response! That is exactly what I'm afraid of. I don't want to limit my options. Do you know anything about the UJ 4 year program? I know that 4 year programs in Europe are rather unconventional so would going to a 4 year program limit me from staying in Europe?

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    Jag is one of the best English programs in E-EU... which does nothing to change the numbers in the US, of course, but it is a good program. It is also in Krakow, which is a big plus.

    The 4-year programs are still EU programs, and there are W-EU 4-year programs in UK and Ireland, so I would not anticipate any issues. Still, that is something that I would recommend clearing directly with the powers-that-be in the places you would want to work. My opinion, while decently-researched and presented without a ton of typos, is worth a steaming pile of dodo dung when compared with that of the people who actually make these kinds of decisions regarding your professional future.

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