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    mdcrunch is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    What would you do wait an extra year or go to Polish school?

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    If you had a choice between going to Polish med school or instead waiting an extra year and going to American school or worst case scenario St Georges or Ross.. What would you do wait an extra year or go to Polish school?

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    Speaking only for myself...

    I would wait a year only if I were guaranteed a seat at a US school. I am not aware of such guarantees, but maybe if you are incredibly well-connected?

    I would not wait a year for a Carib school.

    I would consider (and visit) a broad spectrum of European schools, however, and find the one that was the best fit for me.

    Again, that's just me, for my situation.

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    well put it this way....

    You do a MS of BMS in a medical school for a year...
    You do well....
    You get into a solid USA medical school
    You have at 93% that you will score well on the USMLE

    You come to poland.... You spend 4 years or your life and tens of thousands of dollars...

    You come to poland.... Nothing is Certain... Nothing is clear.....

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    Don't always listen to chexpool, he's just a little bitter about a few things. The education here is what you make of it. And your future can be just as certain as any other medical school, it depends on what you are willing to put into it. If you want to pass all your boards, you'll study and you'll do it...and then you'll get a good residency. It is cheaper to go to school in Poland.

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    LOL; i dont know exactly what i am bitter about. Or how thats pertains to this board. i would recommend people posting there own experiences rather then to to contradict my personal opinions and sentiment. In fact doesnt such emotional projection towards me define bitterness?

    As for bitterness; I do well at PUMS, i even won a scholorship, i have a sweet GF, and have a really nice two story penthouse. I speak polish and have no trouble living here, so i wouldnt say i am bitter about anything.

    but i must say i would be a better doctor and student if they raised the bar. The most self disciplined students do good everywhere. my friend here scored 240's on step one, but hates being here. So the point of school is to force you to perform, this school doesnt force anything, so yes you must make it yourself. unless you have been home schooled your whole life i think people expect a little more out of a graduate level program.

    But i must say, i think would have rather lived in india for 4 years then poland, i am just fed up living in this junk as country. looking back i would have rather been spoon feed medicine somewhere else then "making it what i want it to be" put it this way you dont pay builders to build a house and then you do it your self; sure you have to do your work, but this program only produces good students because those students have to over come the backward *** mentality of polish education, so by the time your done you either failed, or independently made your self a doctor.



    So yes, you work, you pass, and you do well. This school wouldnt survive without those basic and intrinsic requirements that is stating the obvious.

    But you can goto alot of places...

    i forgot to mention one thing to take in consideration too though. Think of your peers, PUMS accepts students with 2.5 gpa's without MCAT's.

    Meaning half of our class is failing courses and exams on a regular basis. People take 10-15 retakes to passes classes, and some people are passed on " ethical reasons "

    Not to mention socially, you get the bottom of the barrel; meaning you get a large group of people that are social retarded/rejects; not the type A personality's would could expect of other med schools. Our class and other classes are the strangest collection of people, they do not represent lets say the average " UG or typical medical type student."

    So no i wouldnt say i am bitter. just that there are many other better choices than living in poland. I came here due to my polish heritage and based on friends that came here. The friends i have here i love and respect but you need to dig around to find them.

    If your do not have polish/ or european citizenship/ heratiage i think its totally bananas coming here. When it comes to money its more and more expensive everyday, and if you start next year, you will be paying in euros in no time.

    GL everyone, my only suggestion is come here, stay a week, test out the waters, and make a decision. And listen to Globalrose, because she is omnitiant; dont listen to my ranting; after all its just my honest and humble opinion.

    GL
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    I fully agree with Chexpool. This school is a do it yourself school, if your not prepared to teach yourself medicine, don't come. You have no help here from the proffessors or the administration. The only ones you can rely on is yourself and your freinds. If you have opportunity to go to a US school and only have to wait a year.....do it. With the new fee structure here in Poznan it will cost you about the same as a US school. I believe the cost of Tuition it now about $20500 at the current exchange rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chexpool View Post


    So yes, you work, you pass, and you do well. This school wouldnt survive without those basic and intrinsic requirements that is stating the obvious.

    But you can goto alot of places...

    i forgot to mention one thing to take in consideration too though. Think of your peers, PUMS accepts students with 2.5 gpa's without MCAT's.

    Meaning half of our class is failing courses and exams on a regular basis. People take 10-15 retakes to passes classes, and some people are passed on " ethical reasons "
    GL
    Hmm I am not sure what year are you into Med School at PUMS .... because a few years would make a big difference. But according to the office in NY the minimmum GPA required to apply for the 08/09 year is 3.0.
    Not sure how strict they are about this minimum rule. And whether it's only "for show", just to make them look more legit, or because more influx of students in the last couple of years...

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    no doubt that the level of incoming is higher if there is more competition to get in to PUM, they should cut the chairs available by 30 and watch the performance of this school jump. But they are not going to do that remember at PUMS your student id number is $$$$, im in 4yr 2010. I know many people that have below 3.0 and no mcat; in my year and other years of the 4 year program. having said that i knw some people that were below 3.0 and did well on there steps so whatever all that junk means... personally, anything under a 24 mcat, and 3.3 should be automatically rejected but thats just my opinion. i also wish this school kicked people out after 3 retakes but thats not going to happen either.

    As for the NY office. They are all lairs; Stan Wiktor the fat cat: "40000k= degree right?" his son andrew Wiktor and our finical adviser has regularly late by 2-3 months on our student loans that we use to live on. according to people on this website they tell applicants that we are accepted in cali which is also a lie. I will sooner believe bums in detroit then anyone in the NY office.

    GL guys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chexpool View Post
    personally, anything under a 24 mcat, and 3.3 should be automatically rejected but thats just my opinion. i also wish this school kicked people out after 3 retakes but thats not going to happen either.
    GL guys...
    I disagree with you about the GPA. The reason everyschool looks at GPAs and MCATs is to ***** student's intelect and mental abilities. MCAT is a pretty good way of assessing students intelligence because the test are more or less the same throughout the country. While courses and dificulty of material and difficulty of examinations vary from University to University. Some big Universities have student overload and many second and third year classes have aroun 700 student and most of the first year classes exceed 1000+ Other universities are begging for students and pretty much take any highschool student that they can get a hold of and really don;t have the pressure that other universities do... And because of that the content of talent varies. And if someone has a 3.9 in one uni he would hardly get a 3.3 at the other. Plus some people had some slips in GPA for not being serious about their studiesbut may be very bright. So GPA I don't think is a fair description of your abilities while the MCAT is. But that my opinion from what i know of Universities across Canada...

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    sure your right; thats why i was saying scores are in some philosophical way junk. For example at our school we have 5 point score system. Meaning an A =5. But the thing is people that take retakes and all that, may have higher grades then people that pass on the first time.

    So yes, standardized test are to set a standard, and its a good indication prob the best. But no matter what school you come out of; if you are the top of your class you are the top. So at any respective school if you have a 4.0 compared to others who have 2.5. I would be a million dollars that the 4.0 is a better student. when you want to compare schools well i guess you goto the MCAT.

    Therefore, its why i included both the MCAT and GPA into my criteria. But having wrote about all of this jazz, make the cut off the MCAT then, whatever. THe 2.5 gpa arnt getting 24s on there mcats anyway, not that 24 is some great score, its just the national average.

    GL..

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