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    Carribean med graduate-PA

    I'm a carribbean medical graduate, didn't match for a couple years and tired of trying and waiting, so now I'm in PA school. Is there anyone out there in my situation that was able to match in FM after working as an FM PA?

    I want to practice in FM, either as an MD or PA. I'm wondering if the experience as a PA in FM will help get in residency in FM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpvivo View Post
    Hey called you yesterday and today but you no one pick up
    here is my tip and what is see that alot of FMGs do in trying to
    improve there chance to get into residency.
    This seems to work here in Los Angeles Area
    I use to work at LAC-USC (NO loan repayment)
    and now work at the VA hospital(loan repayment)
    the trend is that the FMG does that i notice is that they
    either do research which is paid or volunteer for about a year
    then they get the letters and the recognition rub elbows with
    people that know people then go to residency
    you can do this at the city/state you live
    Hey, sorry I didn't know it was you. I actually want to do the NHSC loan repayment program as well (either as a PA or MD). Thanks for the advice. Yes I have heard about research, however, I have no interest in research and when I went on my interviews for the 2 years I applied, I noticed FM programs focus a lot on hands on clinical experience and "sincere" interest. I especially want to do rural medicine (as a PA or MD) so if I practice for 2-3 years as a PA in rural medicine for NHSC Loan Repayment to get my loans paid off, FM residency programs will have no reason to reject me.

    I understand that FMGs do research because it's hard for them to get in PA school. As you know, PA admission is as competitive if not more as medical school with more specific prerequisite requirements, so most of them either don't want to take the time to do prereq and schooling or just cannot get admitted. I know many of them are still trying to get in PA school.

    I know some of them are actually doing DO school, which I think is just overkill because another 4 years of school and almost $300K debt, then they'll end up taking the USMLE steps again. To me, it doesn't really add up.

    I just want to make decent money, get my loans paid off, and practice medicine which is my passion. I will apply for residency again after I practice 2-3 years as a PA and take my USMLE step 3.

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    Me and you are on the same page
    NHSC can wipe out mass student loans
    lots of my classmates and people i rotated
    with did this and now they are done or almost
    done with the loans

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    Getting a PA job in Primary Care
    IE family or Internal will not be problem
    Gettin NHSC jobs will not be a problem if your
    to relocate.
    While working as a PA (family med) i sugest try
    working per diem at local ER to up your procedure
    skills.
    I worked in Skid Row (homeless clinic) and Kept my ER job part time
    and it separated me from the rest of the other PA
    also i was a Corpsman and serve in Iraq
    so maybe you can be and MD (general medical Officer) GMO
    now

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpvivo View Post
    Getting a PA job in Primary Care
    IE family or Internal will not be problem
    Gettin NHSC jobs will not be a problem if your
    to relocate.
    While working as a PA (family med) i sugest try
    working per diem at local ER to up your procedure
    skills.
    I worked in Skid Row (homeless clinic) and Kept my ER job part time
    and it separated me from the rest of the other PA
    also i was a Corpsman and serve in Iraq
    so maybe you can be and MD (general medical Officer) GMO
    now

    Great advice. I'm thinking of doing the full time NHSC Loan repayment (Mon-Friday) plus get a weekend job at an urgent care to save up for a few years to buy a house.
    I still have 20 months of PA school until graduation, and I'm counting everyday
    Do I have to go to Iraq or outside of country if I serve as a GMO?
    There is a PA hospital internal medicine fellowship at Mayo Clinic in AZ so I'm considering that as well. It pays like an MD resident (~$44K) for 12 months. Not sure if it's beneficial because I'll be repeating that during MD residency, but I think it's good experience.

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    MD to PA to FM Residency Route

    There were few PAs pursuing MD in my school, and all secured residencies, I think having a PA is HUGE, only thing is the longer you are after MD, usually after 5 years post graduation, it would be impossible for you to match....unless you have some serious connections, and Amazing USMLE scores....

    I would suggest to continue with your pursuit.....I had to do my MPH while research, and was ONLY able to match in my 3rd year after getting my MD......so keep at it, and improve your application...

    Suggestions:
    1. if your PA is a Master degree, then Your MScPA is good and a strong extra
    2. Get 3 NEW X LORs All in primary care....FM / IM / PEDS
    3. Write a paper / co-publish / Poster Presentation on FM topic (DM, Osteoporosis)
    4. Take USMLE step 3 and get HIGH score in it.

    That should do it
    Apply to at least 100 spots in FM, as well as positions in Peds, Psych, Transitional Year etc...


    Quote Originally Posted by CaribPA View Post
    I'm a carribbean medical graduate, didn't match for a couple years and tired of trying and waiting, so now I'm in PA school. Is there anyone out there in my situation that was able to match in FM after working as an FM PA?

    I want to practice in FM, either as an MD or PA. I'm wondering if the experience as a PA in FM will help get in residency in FM.

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    Thanks UHSA-DOC
    for the advice
    me and CaribPA are attacking the same hill with different angles

    Im a PA going for MD
    im starting Med School in Aug 2011

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    NHSC Loan repayment (Mon-Friday) or you can also go part time. they will still pay 50%

    I worked two jobs one fulltime and other perdiem by Oct which i had to cut back hours
    Due to Family (spend more time), PA boards Recert, apply to Med School and Pre reading Med school Books
    for Up coming MS1 and MS2 i was able to Make 150k plus loan repayment so its not a bad deal being a PA

    PA shcool
    The 20 months will fly by
    u will be on rotations in two semesters
    and you will shine even more (you already know what they are teaching)

    For the military the send you where they need you ( i did 10 years ) and they sent me to Bosnia,Iraq, S. Amrerica and other hell holes.

    For the Residency PA question i will call you or u can call me
    its a complicated issue with PAs for me
    Im mos def for it. but i tell u my 2 cents on the phone

    R U going to Tuoro in NV ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UHSADOC View Post
    There were few PAs pursuing MD in my school, and all secured residencies, I think having a PA is HUGE, only thing is the longer you are after MD, usually after 5 years post graduation, it would be impossible for you to match....unless you have some serious connections, and Amazing USMLE scores....

    I would suggest to continue with your pursuit.....I had to do my MPH while research, and was ONLY able to match in my 3rd year after getting my MD......so keep at it, and improve your application...

    Suggestions:
    1. if your PA is a Master degree, then Your MScPA is good and a strong extra
    2. Get 3 NEW X LORs All in primary care....FM / IM / PEDS
    3. Write a paper / co-publish / Poster Presentation on FM topic (DM, Osteoporosis)
    4. Take USMLE step 3 and get HIGH score in it.

    That should do it
    Apply to at least 100 spots in FM, as well as positions in Peds, Psych, Transitional Year etc...
    1) yes my PA program is Master's, check
    2) I will do that during my clinical year. I'm planning on doing some rotations at Mayo Clinic and possibly do a postgraduate PA fellowship in hospital internal medicine at Mayo Clinic after PA graduation. Work and pay are same as IM MD intern. I would think having Mayo Clinic on my application would look good.
    3) Hmm...not sure about research, I have very little interest in it. Maybe during the fellowship in hospital internal medicine, I might get to do a poster presentation?
    4) I will do my best. Studying my butt off right now for step 3, hopefully will be able to sit for it this year.

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    *inspirational message title goes here or someting*

    im a PA with a master's degree (MPH) also. worked under the general surgery umbrella (usually bounce around on the services, but mainly covered plastics, urology and ENT) for two years in new york. met a student from an off shore school and he encouraged me to apply to the school...badabing, another two years later im literally studying for step 1 as we speak.

    i kind of clawed my way to the top, worked as a medical assistant in undergrad, physician assistant, now in medical school.

    i liked working as a pa, fresh out of school i was making 90k and had an apartment in manhattan working with top nyc doctors. i only put that here to know what are my chances, ive gotten stellar LOR from the people ive worked with (im now dual licensed for PA practice in NY and FLA) but being an off shore medical school, i know it can be rough.

    good luck caribPA, dont give up, i still remember my post somewhere in this forum being all scared about PA school, then being scared about medical school, lol....now im studying for step1.

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