any advice on purchasing a car
by wmg (Login wmg)

Hi. I am of to Adelaide. Does anyone have any experiences to share on purchasing vehicles? I would like to buy an old Toyota Landcruiser, there seem to be a lot for sale through the "Australian" newspaper website at reasonable prices. How much should I expect for insurance or repairs? Also, how about bicycles? Does any one have any experience with used bike purchases? Any other comments on the transportation issue in Adelaide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Posted on Jul 19, 2001, 9:35 AM
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by Kimberli Cox (Login kimberlicox)

Depends on where you live. The buses do run right to the medical center but the hours are not long (ie, don't run after say midnight or 1 am on weekends, earlier during the week) and they don't always go where you want to. If you wanted to visit Glenelg for example, you would have to transfer through a couple of buses; there are no direct lines from the uni.

Downtown Adelaide is about a 20 minute drive or a longer bus ride from Flinders. Not terribly inconvenient but it would be much nicer with a car. I got by without one and used my bike or walked most places (or bummed rides from friends! ). The area around Flinders is rather hilly so if you are planning on biking be prepared to really work! Your quads will hate you for it.

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MB/** versus BM/**
by wmg (Login wmg)

I inderstood that MBBS was a six year degree and BMBS was a four rear. However, Queensland's four year graduate entry offers the MBBS. Is there any difference at all between these? I believe they both stand for Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery, am I right? Can we use either? Also, for any grads, I also understand you may use MD after ECFMG certification, is this correct? Does anyone have any reason to keep MBBS rather than MD? Thanks Everyone.

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no difference
by joe (Login joechan)

in my opinion, if you were to get the MBBS, it is your official degree and you list that under formal documents. But in the u.s. you are allowed to put MD behind your badge or something so the patients wouldn't be confused.

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please clarify
by wmg (Login wmg)

Are the MB/** and BM/** interchangeable then? I will start the Flinders course and they award BM/**. It would be my preference to use MB/** as it is more familiar to myself and people in th UK where I may end up. Thanks for the answers.

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Degrees
by Kimberli Cox (Login kimberlicox)

They are exactly the same; it is just a matter of whether the degree name is in English or I believe Latin (which rearranges the words).

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mbbs; bmbs; md
by pinoymax (Login pinoymax)

i can understand your desire to have the initials mbbs after your name rather than bmbs which is less familiar to most people, but i don't think there is any need to worry as most people in the medical profession know that they are equivalent to each other.
in the uk, i think you will be allowed to introduce yourself to your patients as mbbs since this is what they are familiar with.


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by Scott (Login scyma)

May it be an MD, MBBS, BMBS, MBChB, MBBChir, MBBCh or BMed, they all provide you with the same qualification - the ability to become a medical practitioner. I really don't think that it matters what post-nominals you receive, as long as you are capable to practising medicine.



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What about Adelaide?
by Fire9800 (Login Fire9800)

Can anyone tell me the pros and cons of the University of Adelaide's medical program?
I know it's a 6yr. program and it does not require MCAT's, but is it a decent school?

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Adelaide Uni
by Kimberli Cox (Login kimberlicox)

Adelaide Uni is an excellent school but much more traditional in its approach than Flinders or other PBL programs. You should concern yourself with whether or not they take international students, especially if you already have an undergraduate degree. Most of your potential classmates will be 18 years old but you may be allowed to join in the 2nd year.

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by Scott (Login scyma)

Adelaide Uni has just changed it's structure such that it is similar to the graduate programmes at Flinders. Students are also required to take elective topics that are not medical in nature, like philosophy, geology, psychology and anthropology.

I know that Australian citizens are required to take UMAT, but I don't know what the case is for International students. The UMAT deadline was last month, so it will be late for anyone applying at the end of this year.

I also know that Australian citizens with a tertiary record (who have been enrolled in a university) are not allowed to apply to Adelaide Uni. I don't know what the case is for international students.

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UMAT
by Kimberli Cox (Login kimberlicox)

Scott...

Has the UMAT replaced the GAMSAT? If so, how is it different? Just a wonderin'...

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umat
by pinoymax (Login pinoymax)

hi,
i think the UMAT is taken for entry into the six year program, while the Gamsat is taken for entry into the graduate medical program. both programs are still very much around.
i was just wondering are you aussie or american and in your opinion which is a better place to live.

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by Kimberli Cox (Login kimberlicox)

Ahhh...thanks. I'm American but enjoy living in both countries - each has its advantages. I enjoy the resources of the US but medical practice in Australia is much more humane and there is a greater emphasis on lifestyle over career.

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by Scott (Login scyma)

Hi

UMAT (The Undergraduate Medical and Health Sciences Admissions Test) is the test taken by students who intend to apply to the following courses:
Adelaide - 6yr medicine, dental surgery
Monash - 5yr medicine
Melbourne - 6yr medicine, dental science, physiotherapy
Western Australia - 6yr medicine, dentistry
Tasmania - 6yr medicine.

It is run by the same people as GAMSAT (ACER) but it is a very different test.


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How are graduates from 6yr. undergrad medical programs viewed, compared to their 4yr. postgrad coun
by Fire9800 (Login Fire9800)

Entrance exams aside, does someone who already has an undergraduate degree from a Canadian or U.S. university stand a better chance of being accepted into a 6yr. undergraduate medical program (eg. University of Adelaide), then a 4yr. postgrad program (eg. University of Sydney)?

Is there any validity to the undergrad medical programs offered by some of the Australian universities?

Does someone who takes the undergraduate degree have a chance to practice medicine in Canada or the US?



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by Scott (Login scyma)

At the end of any medical course in Australia, you receive a Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery. The qualification is equivalent to that of the MD in the US. Going to Adelaide uni as opposed to Flinders means that you will be in Medical School for another 2 years.

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chances
by Mike (Login MikeOwen)

I am 28, a lawyer and interested in applying to med schools in Australia as I have buisness there anyway. My undergraduate GPA is good (only 1 B) and I also did very well in Law School (top 1%). Unfortunately, I didn't take many science classes undergrad. I am planning on doing a post bac program in the US and then taking the MCAT. I was wondering if my age hurts me? and if my non science bckg hurts me?

Also, how does the process work? Is there a central agency you deal with or you just send the schools your transcripts directly? I am used the the LSDAS [law] and they request your transcripts from the ugrad school themselves. I am assuming that I'll have to send the schools everything. Anyway, I appreciate your help. Thanks for being a kind and supportive bunch.

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i hope your age
by wmg (Login wmg)

doesn't matter as I am older than you and starting the course at Flinders in Feb/2002. 28 is still pretty young in some cultures. The application service in Australia is ACER, they have a website. As an international applicant I believe you can apply directly to the school (as I did) but I do not know if that holds true for all the schools in Australia that accept intl students. Check out USyd, Flinders, Melbourne, and Queensland. My background was in religion so they (Flinders at least)do not require a science degree although I have done considerable undergrad and grad work in the sciences. My interveiwee seemed to like the fact I had done well in Biochem, Micro, and Physiology. I would guess they are not so demanding of the full physics year, etc US schools are. (although I find physics helpful for things like physiology). SMoke the MCAT, take some science courses and you should be competitive. Good Luck.

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student visa question
by wmg (Login wmg)

Hello. Can anyone please tell me how long it takes to get the visa paperwork done here in the States. I understand for Flinders they issue the paperwork after the 5000 AUD deposit has been made. How long after that do you actually have the visa? Is it possible to pick it up elsewhere, like SE Asia? Thanks a lot.