Re: School web page (Australia) Please
by bliss187 (Login bliss187)

acer website - http://www.acer.edu.au/

Flinders University School of Medicine
http://som.flinders.edu.au

University of Melbourne School of Medicine
http://www.medfac.unimelb.edu.au/med//

University of Queensland School of Medicine
http://www.som.uq.edu.au/

University of Sydney Faculty of Medicine
http://www.gmp.usyd.edu.au/vguide


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Flinders vs. Sydney vs. ?
by Lexi (Login Lexi2026)

Hello everyone,

I've been lurking around for a few weeks and finally decided to post something now that I have just completed my Flinders early decision interview.
I may be jumping the gun a little bit but I think I will be offered a spot at Flinders. Here then is my dilemma: I don't know how to decide between Sydney, Flinders or a UK school (specifically considering Oxford, simply for the name) -- assuming I will be granted entry everywhere

I've been impressed with the way Flinders approaches international students and also with their students' success in obtaining US residencies. Sydney is not as forthcoming about USMLE pass rates/residencies. The UK schools have only recently started graduate entry programs and so I think are rather untested in this regard....

I guess my only real reason to consider Sydney is that I have some family there....

Any thoughts?
Thanks!

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Question
by sn (Login nimalan)

Hi!
I am curious what GPA and MCAT scores will be competitive for the EDP at flinders,since you got the interview offer you may shed some light on this regard and also which schools in UK have a 4yr graduate medicine-I thought they are all 6yr medical schools.Any info will be greately appreciated.
Thank you
sn

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Re: Flinders Early Decision Program & UK Schools
by Anonymous (Login Lexi2026)

Hi,

my undergrad average was 85% (Canadian, no GPAs) and my grad school GPA was 4.7. My overall MCAT was 32. I can't say whether this is representative of other early decision applicants ....maybe someone else has posted on this (?) I'm actually hoping this is good enough to get into a US school somewhere

There are actually quite a few schools in the UK that are now offering 4 year programs. The following list is probably not exhaustive (heck, it may not even be accurate , but does represent the ones I found to be open to international students (not all of the new programs are):

Leicester Warwick Medical School (this program looks fairly well established)
University of Liverpool
Barts & The London
University of Nottingham
University of Oxford
University of Newcastle-Upon-Tyne

Hope this helps.

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Thank you
by sn (Login nimalan)

Hi !
Thank you for your info. I do not understand why you are looking at Australia, your average and MCAT scores are good enough to gain addmission in canada .why don't you try one more time ? I am sure you must have your reasons.Good luck.
sn

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i do
by pinoymax (Login pinoymax)

hi, i try and check the board whenever i have the time-which means i get to check it up to three times on some days. you have any questions??

Posted on Apr 14, 2002, 12:02 AM
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thank you!
by bliss187 (Login bliss187)

I thought the board was deserted because the last post made before mine was on March 18th....thank you for posting pinoymax!

I have a few quick questions. I'm a US undergrad student and plan on applying to Flinders & Sydney next year (for admission in Feb 2004).

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1. How would they calculate my grades if the semester right before would be the fall semester of my 5th year (I plan on taking some undergrad classes for fun).

2. I have the Flinders application and it seems really simple...at what point do I send in my references? Is there a secondary application?

3. Is the interview conducted differently for US students (ex: I think I read that Flinders has a panel of 3 interviewers, but at the US, there's one interviwer - is that true...I guess I need correct info on that)

4. Finally the expect question about grades, mcats: I read on ACER, that one of the schools (I think Flinders) expects a gpa of at least 5.5. But, I have no clue what that means for my gpa or how to even calculate my gpa to the 7.0 scale (the instructions don't really make sense and how would a 4th and 5th year calculate?)

So, (if anyone knows), would a 3.4 gpa and 34 mcat be competitive? Actually, I haven't taken the MCAT, but with my gpa, I know I would only apply if I did excecptionally well on the mcats.
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I'm sorry that these aren't really quick questions, but I suspect that they're the type of questions any annoying premed asks...thanks so very much if you've read my post!

oops..I just thought of another question...what is it like to live in Australia? Specifically, how are the people? I live in buffalo, ny (a depressed has-been industrial city with a corrupt city government...the weather is terrible, in winter months we get snow and frequently 20 inches of snow at one time...which makes people here for the most part cranky, depressed, and mean). I'm guessing that Australia would be a better change for me. any comment would be greatly appreciated..

Again, thank you! And I'm sorry for being annoying wiht my premed questions!

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Some answers
by Anonymous (Login Flindophile)

I think I can answer some of your questions..

1) letters - As I recall, none are required

2) I think your stats are competitive. I think the mean MCAT is a bit above 30.

3) living in Australia is good -- much less expensive than the US. The quality of Australian medical schools is excellent.

4) I don't know how to convert to a 7 point scale (perhaps do a simple ratio: 7*(3.4/4) = 5.95 so it looks like you are OK)

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thank you! especially for reading all that! -nt
by bliss187 (Login bliss187)

nt

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hi
by pinoymax (Login pinoymax)

hi bliss,
sorry don't have that much info on flinders, why don't you try reading the previous threads you'll probably find answers to some of the questions you've asked.
good luck.


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Me too
by Kimberli Cox (Login kimberlicox)

I check in every few days - been a bit disappointed there's little action here. Maybe now that application season is starting again things will be more interesting.

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marks
by rsk77 (Login rsk77)

hi, the standards aren't as high as you think. a 3.4 and minimum 8/8/8/m would do just fine.
i'm at UQ in Brisbane, if you've got questions mail me. I don't use this board frequently.

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thank you so very much for your replies! (-nt)
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Untitled
by Crepitus Fremitus (Login crepitusfremitus)

Hello.

I am a US citizen and final year medical student at Flinders. I am happy to address anyone's questions if you feel it may be of help. I'll try to check the forum every few days.

All the best, Crep.

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Question please!
by sn (Login nimalan)

Hi!
since you are in your final yr its a long forgotten thing for you by now,but I still want to ask you.what kind of GPA (in our 4 scale)and MCAT scores will get you to the interview stage.I am aware of the published info on Flinders site,but I am sure the "going rate" should be much higher.If you know any current info about this please let meknow I would greatly appreciate your help.Thanks
sn

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GPAs and MCATs
by Crepitus Fremitus (Login crepitusfremitus)

Hi there.

I can well understand your curiosity on these matters, and I'll give my two cents in a second, but first I suppose you have to ask yourself why you really want to know this.

If it is because you are trying to decide whether or not to apply to Flinders, I'd say just go ahead and do it. The Flinders application is pretty simple and relatively cheap. If you have any inkling you may want to go to school here, fill it out and send it in-- you've got (almost) nothing to lose.

As far as your question goes, you're right, it has been a while, and I think Flinders have modified thier selection critera since I interviewed. (What that may say about us earlier matriculants I care not to comtemplate!)

Nonetheless, in general, I think Flinders were better than US or Canadian school at looking at the "whole." That is, they didn't seem to have frank cut-offs in any one area, so that a marginal GPA may be made up for by better MCATS, or vice versa; or the overall GPA is less important than the GPA in classes more directly related to medicine. I know all medical schools say they do that, but I for one wonder.

sorry I can't be more specific. Really, I don't know much about the GPAs and MCAT scores of my classmates. It's just not something we tend to discuss.

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Thanks
by sn (Login nimalan)

Hi!
Thanks for that info,I have mailed in my application today.

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where are you guys?
by sn (Login nimalan)

Hi everyone!
This forum is inactive for a while.Please exchange your thoughts in a sentence and lets help each other.Thank you.
sn

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Does any one know a Canadian IMG get permanently licenced in US?
by sn (Login nimalan)

Hi!
We all know the difficulties of gettiing into a residency programe in US as Canadian.We assume for know that we will do it in our first shot.What next? coming back to canada for 2yrs after residency is not feasible with the loan amount we have.I am worried about my ability to pay back the loans in a monthly basis.So I cannot hunt for job wasting time after residency training.so how and where can we permanently get licenced or at least be able to earn money on a temporary contract(to pay the loan and stop interest accumulation)? Does any one know any CANADIAN permanently licenced in US? is agreeing to serve in an underserved area gurantee any thing close to permanent licensure in that stae? worried about the END/ULTIMATUM for Canadian IMG.Please reply anyone who know anything on this issue.Thank you for your time.
worried Canadian

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Also a Canadian
by Anonymous (Login yassaf)

I was wondering if you know what is the procedure for Canadians studying in Australia. Do they have to do their residency outside of Australia after? Because going back to Canada to do residency is impossible as none are accepted...
Do you know how graduates from Australian med schools are looked upon in Canada? do they have any chance of ever working there again?

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Untitled
by Anonymous (Login drheitor)

Could anyone please tell me , about the program in Australia. Is a 4 year prg. ?? Where is the clinicals sites???? Anyone from any school???
What are the options?? the students are mainly from where ?? How much it cost ? How long take the admission process?? any recomendation of schools . Thank you very much for replying any coments .

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See Websites
by Crepitus Fremitus (Login crepitusfremitus)

Most of these questions can be answered by checking out the schools' websites.

The admission process was pretty quick. I ineterviewed in Aug and was notified in Oct. It may have changed since then.

Most of the students (~75%) at Flinders are Australian. The majority of the non-Aussie students in my year were from the US, but I understand now there are more Canadians. We also had students from Europe, Asia, and Africa.

As for recomendation, I can only speak about Flinders. I would recomend it to anyone. It's not perfect by any stretch, but what is?

Let me know if you have more questions
All the best, Crep

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