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    Lauren227Nicole is offline Member 510 points
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    I Want Med 3 Books!

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    Title says it all....

    If anyone is looking to sell their Med 3 books, please contact me! I also do not care if the edition is not the most current...as long as it is only one behind the most recent one published! Thanks!

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    Lauren227Nicole is offline Member 510 points
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    I Want Med 3 Books!

    The title says it all! If you have these books, and I do not care if they are not the most recent edition, I'll buy it off of you!

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    I have neuro -snell and brs
    and genetics books for sale if your interested

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    you don't need books for med3.
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    lauren227... One of the new rules at school, from what I understand, is that there are topics which will not be taught in class but you will be held responsible for during testing time. It appears that this rule is not to make our life more difficult but to get us to read the books which is the correct way to learn and succeed in Med School. Good luck.

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    texts and tests

    I took the Kaplan exam today in it's entirety with Burnspot and other faculty. The purpose was to make sure that there were no glitches when we give the exam next week and to familiarize the faculty with the test material. It was a long day. NtoC is correct. Students must purchase the texts and read them diligently. It is the only way to build an infrastructure of basic science knowledge one class at a time, to build on, so that when the time comes for standardized exams it will not be about cramming it will be about review. Here at MUA we are evolving the material taught to reflect medicine as lifelong learning. I am proud of the basic science I have learned and remember over the years and as medicine has progressed to the molecular level and we have entire new concepts of immunology I have been able to keep up easily because of the time I spent in 1970-1973 reading texts cover to cover many more than once and making sure I always have my NEJM every week. I just took the self assessment exam in my field and did exceptionally well. Medicine is lifelong learning as I have said many times BUT it is only possible to complete the task well if the basics are sound and the infrastructure is built correctly. At MUA reading texts will be requisite as it is impossible to cover all material in the depth necessary in class. This is common in schools in the where attendance is not required, its how students learn. So material will be tested that is not covered in class but is in the reading assignments from the text. It would be great if in the Carib we didnt HAVE to have mandatory attendance but from a regulatory perspective we have no choice. So between class and reading there is little time left over for anything else. BUT the 20 months spent building that infrastructure is a lifelong INVESTMENT that cannot be measured in dollars but rather in the satisfaction of knowing how good a doctor you are and how well you take care of your patients. Dean T

    PS Neuro for Med 4 PD and ICM = Netters neurology by H Royden Jones Elsevier (it will help in med 3 also)
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    I have the Ridiculously Simple Micro book, if you're interested send a message or ask for me on campus, I'm the bald white guy in med 4.

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    Passed

    By the way, for anyone who is reading, the faculty passed by a very nice margin. No, I will not tell the number. No, I will not give out hints or answers. We did not get the answers-only got the scores in the end. 8 faculty from med1-med5 took the exam together so that faculty in each level will know what is on the Kaplan post test and how such tests are taken by computer.

    The Kaplan post test exam is set up EXACTLY how the USMLE step 1 is set up 7 blocks-60 minutes each-50 questions per block-350 questions total-8 hours to take the whole exam (1 hour break-test taker gets to decide how long and when to take the breaks-as long as they are not taken during a block. JUST LIKE USMLE step 1)

    As a MD and a graduate of a US medical school 2001, who has taken and passed all 3 steps of the USMLE- BY COMPUTER-,I can say, for sure, that the Kaplan post test is much like how one is tested by the actual USMLE.
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    While I agree with your highpoints, to draw parallels to your schooling and that of U.S med. schools isn't exactly the most realistic. After sitting in class for the biggest percentage of the day, compared to U.S. schools with no attendance requirements, there is little time to go over that days info., possibly previous info, and if you're really a gifted individual with a photographic memory and speed reading ability, you may read some corresponding texts; BRS, Kaplan. With an accelerated program like ours, the teaching staff as well as the students must alter the way the provide and take in information. Unfortunately the change seems to be but largely on the students shoulders, with little accountability on the behalf of the teaching staff, at least for many that I have had thus far. I have teaching experience so am not simply ranting and raving because I am doing poorly in some course. The teachers have the responsibility to disseminate information as they supposedly know better how to look at a large chunk of available info. and point out things of extreme importance and direct us more specific directions as to further relevant and important readings on our own. This is the basic premise behind what Kaplan does. It would be helpful if the emphasis were shifted a little more onto quality instead of quantity. Students are very motivated here as this is likely their last chance to do what they wanted to do for a long time. So, given the proper direction and available time to do so, most would willingly read extra because they wanted to, not because an authority figure told them that they must. To conclude, if you wish us to read the books, not cram the info., give us a chance to do so, inform our instructors that Quality trumps quantity every time. It may be of great benefit if Dr. Manchoff could possibly meet with our professors to mention some possibly things that can be done to better instruct students as he has done for the students. I have heard all to many times from teachers, that " they are teaching us how to fish", so that we may feed ourselves. If you don't know how to fish by now, you have no business being here. I need to now where to fish and be guided, not sent out into the ocean with all the gear, a stack of books and told to come back in 3 hrs. with a boat load of fish. It is sad when the people who miss the most class are able to score higher on the exams. Now that sounds more like a U.S. school. Your heart is in the right place and I commend that, but the ore is better ideal doesn't hold true for anything in life. You guys have the field experience, narrow it down to important concepts and help us to understand these concepts, not just hat they exist and we will be able to add onto this info. for the rest of our lives, as we should. Or you have the alternative, memorize everything from the book as instructed in class and remember approx. 10% later. It's a time issue, not an ability or lack of good information issue. Narrow the info down a bit and give us a chance. I'm sure that you would be pleased with the results as you seem overly quite dedicated to improving the school status and its overall quality of education. Thanks for your time

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    I agree with you Lauren Nicole

    I was saying he same thing you are. The attendance requirement is the big issue. I know there is hardly barely enough time. The problem is there is no mythical distilled high yieldpoints that can be covered entirely in class. It just not exist. After taking the comp shelf and the Kaplanmyself I know what you are looking for but it's IMPOSSIBLE there is just to much information that is high yield so to speak and it is all predicated on previous learning. We are in total agreement you and I the difference is that I realize that no matter how hard it is the ONLY way to build the infrastructure is to read the texts and use the profs to explain points you don't quiteget sense of. This is a true cunundrum how to make it all flow in 14 weeks. But the answer lies in absolute devotion to use every free minute effectively. By the way were you refrring to Burnspots' post or MINE (SEE ABOVE) because you and I are saying the very same thing.
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