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    Warsaw Uni info?

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    Hello all, I have spent a fair number of hours perusing these forums and I have to say that I am indebted to the wealth of information and opinion I have found here.

    I have attended all of my schooling in the United States. The citizenships I currently hold are Austrian (birth), Slovak (request to embassy), and American (naturalized citizen). Fluent in English and Czech.
    I am finishing my last year of high school, and plan to take a year off to work as a CNA and save up a bit of money, then take loans to enter into a European medical school 6 yr MD programme for 2007 -- looking at Jagiellonian, Wroclaw, and Poznan.

    I have heard a lot of praise for Warsaw Uni, but after checking their website, I was unable to find any English medium programme information, just that this section of the site in under construction. Does anyone have any specific information about the quality of their English medium, and (very importantly) approximate tuition fees?

    Thank you for your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L Pletzova
    Hello all, I have spent a fair number of hours perusing these forums and I have to say that I am indebted to the wealth of information and opinion I have found here.

    I have attended all of my schooling in the United States. The citizenships I currently hold are Austrian (birth), Slovak (request to embassy), and American (naturalized citizen). Fluent in English and Czech.
    I am finishing my last year of high school, and plan to take a year off to work as a CNA and save up a bit of money, then take loans to enter into a European medical school 6 yr MD programme for 2007 -- looking at Jagiellonian, Wroclaw, and Poznan.

    I have heard a lot of praise for Warsaw Uni, but after checking their website, I was unable to find any English medium programme information, just that this section of the site in under construction. Does anyone have any specific information about the quality of their English medium, and (very importantly) approximate tuition fees?

    Thank you for your time.
    I'm confused. Why would you consider Poland when you fluently speak Czech or Slovak (yes, I know all three are Western Slavic languages)?

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    Tution fee for the 6 year MDprgm, starting these year 8700 EURO (paid in two payments)

    The reason the curriculumn info site is down is because they have made some recent changes to it, mainly the examination procedure, it will probably be up again in a short while.

    The english M.D prgm is very good, and I have always been satisfied with the instructors.

    Worth mentioning is that all the department buildings are either newly built or renovated (except the polish instit. where u will learn polish...that one sucks.), and the university libary is very nice...nicer than any libary I have ever seen.

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    Miklos: I am considering a Polish University because I do not have the money for Charles University, and I haven't been very impressed with Masaryk in Brno. My hometown is Komorni Lhotka (in Moravia, near Frydek-Mistek) and I am much more familiar with the south-eastern sector of the CZR and Poland than Prague, and my experiences with capital dwellers have been a bit negative.

    I actually haven't put any consideration into a Slovak university, but I'll read up on some.

    Thanks much, Dr. Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L Pletzova
    Miklos: I am considering a Polish University because I do not have the money for Charles University, and I haven't been very impressed with Masaryk in Brno. My hometown is Komorni Lhotka (in Moravia, near Frydek-Mistek) and I am much more familiar with the south-eastern sector of the CZR and Poland than Prague, and my experiences with capital dwellers have been a bit negative.

    I actually haven't put any consideration into a Slovak university, but I'll read up on some.

    Thanks much, Dr. Evil.
    Where do you want to practice medicine and how do you wish to finance your education?

    If you are fluent in Czech/Slovak, you may wish to consider a native language program in the CR or Slovakia (though Stafford loans are not available for Slovak schools). [I've found that most lecturers do a better job in their native language than in English. In addition, licensure in the U.S. is easier than with English language programs.]

    If you are financing your education from the U.S., you may wish to keep in mind that if you attend a school that charges in Euros, you will assume the currency risk.

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    I have not decided in finality in which country I wish to practice at first, but I know that during the span of my career I would like to work in two out of the three: US, UK and CR or Slovakia. The most probable course will be US first and later either of the two.

    My education will be fully funded by loan programs, as I do not have familial support or contribution. I do expect to be defined as an "independent student." I'm looking at Stafford Loans and the IEFC. SallieMae and possibly another loan program are available in case I still need more money, which I'm not anticipating. Since Staffords aren't available for Slovak schools, that's kinda knocking them off the list.

    I'm pretty set on taking an English medium program because I am already very familiar with medical terms and procedures (at the top of my CNA class and HOSA Competition 1st place winner) in English, and it would be disappointing to have to relearn everything in my native language.

    I am aware of the Euro risk, but I'm not very concerned about it and it's not a deciding factor on where I wish to study.
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    don't rule out the cr schools, just by graduating high school and attending full time, you are eligible for $18,500 in stafford loans and additonal funds (possibly up to $3,500) may be available through private sources... i started this year, straight from hs and recevied the full amount through IEFC, different schools do things differently, i'm not sure if the polish schools would certify you for the full graduate/professional student amount... plus the option of eventually going to school for free if you are able to transfer to the czech language program would be a huge advantage, there is one student in the first faculty that started this year trying to do just that... the average czech lives off 12,000 crowns a month (about $500), with stafford loans alone, you could easily live above the mean if you spend your money wisely and avoid expensive(ie. touristy) spots... speaking czech would certainly save you money!

    school here is hard! way above american high school, in fact it makes it look like a joke! it would definitely be in your best interest to get a firm background in the sciences (especially chemistry) before coming here... to be honest, i don't really have any expectation of passing the first year, it'd be great and i'm studying as much as i can but i'm not counting on it... i do feel however that the experience, even for the very short time i've been here is worth the effort and debt regardless of what degree you receive in the end... (this could probably be said for going to school anywhere in europe)

    oh and cna class is cool, but don't expect to use anything you learn for the next 3 years and it really won't be any advantage in applying to ce schools, you just need to pass the entrance exam! it could however, be a good summer job to save up some extra cash to supplement your loans... i worked as an emt last summer and plan on doing the same for the summers to come... actually, i can't wait to impress the nurses when i spit out some big vocabulary words in calling in a radio report to the hospital... haha

    -matt
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    The program at Charles however, has a written and oral entrance exams. The poor quality and inexistent opportunities for advancement in rural Southern US high schools doesn't give me a good background to pass the exams, mostly on the part of physics (which is by no means my forté.) It's just something else that detracts from the possibility of attending Charles.

    1st Faculty does seem to be the only English program that's okay for CA, including the rest of the schools in CR and PL. Is it the sole program?
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    having also gone to hs in the southern us (virginia) i understand your frustration...

    you can basically forget anything you've learned in physics, biophysics here is crazy, i swear the lecturer (Dr. V****) is speaking something other than english...

    the entrance exam is only written and you can take it in the US, email Viera, [email protected] and she'll hook you up... you only need a 50% to pass, not difficult imo...

    the first faculty, as of now is the only school in the cr approved by california for english language instruction but the hungarian schools also have approval... no polish or slovak schools as of yet...

    -matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by L Pletzova
    I am aware of the Euro risk, but I'm not very concerned about it and it's not a deciding factor on where I wish to study.
    Having been biten by the fall of the dollar versus the Hungarian forint while I attended medical school (along with very significant inflation over the years), I'd urge you to think about this. (Plus most programs in the region still denominate their tuition in US dollars.)

    More to the point, some of my Norwegian classmates had significant problems during a couple terms, as their education was financed in Norwegian kroner. However, as tuition was denominated in US dollars; when the dollar to kroner rate was greatly in favor of the dollar, they suffered.

    Having the tuition fixed in the currency you are using to finance your education can make a big difference.

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