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    PunjabiPatel is offline Newbie 514 points
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    North American Students- US and Canadian students Advice

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    I graduated from this school ths year. If you are coming from united states or canada stay away from this school. if you go to this school, you will regret it. you will pay alot of money and pay and pay hmi but won't benefit at all from this school. Don't listen to the US clinical rotations from Hope. If you don't pay hmi annual fees, you will get threatening letters and the school will block you. You can't attend class. You pay hope $10,000 entrance fees. Every year you pay them $7000 hoping to get a spot after your two years. The way they have the NBME set up is to prevent you from doing rotation in the US. Everything is a scam! You pay alot to do self study. Residency spots are getting harder in US and canada. Go somewhere where it's worth it. Pay less at another school. Please don't go to this school or any Hope school. The students here are all HOPELESS! Stay Away everyone from US or Canada!!!

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    What this hope company i Will go to this school next year im from Sweden?

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    i graduated from this school ths year. If you are coming from united states or canada stay away from this school. If you go to this school, you will regret it. You will pay alot of money and pay and pay hmi but won't benefit at all from this school. Don't listen to the us clinical rotations from hope. If you don't pay hmi annual fees, you will get threatening letters and the school will block you. You can't attend class. You pay hope $10,000 entrance fees. Every year you pay them $7000 hoping to get a spot after your two years. The way they have the nbme set up is to prevent you from doing rotation in the us. Everything is a scam! You pay alot to do self study. Residency spots are getting harder in us and canada. Go somewhere where it's worth it. Pay less at another school. Please don't go to this school or any hope school. The students here are all hopeless! Stay away everyone from us or canada!!
    Last edited by Chris_; 08-11-2014 at 12:43 PM.

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    Hi Chris and Punjabi Patel: Thanks for your feedback! My sister is all set to go to Selisia--and I am so glad i read this post!! It is so different that what HOPE wants you to believe....did you both go here? is Lublin better than Selisia or are they equally bad? I am the only one working and i will be supporting her--but didn't want it all to go to waste.
    Would you all advise that it is better for her to go to a Caribbean University? With the schools in America--being so tough to get into--she has applied (and accepted into Selisia) and is applying to the Caribbean schools as well...but now that I read this i am in 2 minds if she should go to Selisia at all!
    Thank you so much for being honest in these posts and your response would be truly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrah01 View Post
    Hi Chris and Punjabi Patel: Thanks for your feedback! My sister is all set to go to Selisia--and I am so glad i read this post!! It is so different that what HOPE wants you to believe....did you both go here? is Lublin better than Selisia or are they equally bad? I am the only one working and i will be supporting her--but didn't want it all to go to waste.
    Would you all advise that it is better for her to go to a Caribbean University? With the schools in America--being so tough to get into--she has applied (and accepted into Selisia) and is applying to the Caribbean schools as well...but now that I read this i am in 2 minds if she should go to Selisia at all!
    Thank you so much for being honest in these posts and your response would be truly appreciated!

    If you are able to pay out of pocket then I'd run from anything that HMI is a part of. The only benefit of having them is that they always seem to have FAFSA worked out but it comes at a steep price. The tuition at Lublin is about 23-24k a year, more money than a US undergrad university. If you are willing to pay that much cash then I'd suggest you help your sister stay in the US, do undergrad, and then try to get into a 4 year US medical school. It is more expensive but you're almost guaranteed a residency while graduating from Poland is always a risk. However, if you want to go to Poland, then do Warsaw, UJ, Poznan, or maybe Gdansk.
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    Farrah01:

    I'll be honest with you! We all believe Hope. We fell for their lies and propaganda. Everyone will tell you. I mean everyone who came through Hope will tell you the same story. Once you get to Silesia or Lublin (well I heard it's the same there because I have friends there) you are alone. I mean completely alone. The teachers, professors don't care. They only want our money and they know it. Even the Vice Rector for Academic affairs tells an entire class "students should come here and spend their money." She will have to do self study! HMI controls the school. The school will block her from going to class if HMI tells them she owes money or anything. THE SCHOOL WILL REFUSE TO GIVE YOU YOUR DIPLOMA IF HMI TELLS THEM NOT TO BECAUSE YOU OWE THEM! STUDENTS ARE REFUSED THEIR DIPLOMAS AFTER FINISHING SCHOOL! IT TOOK ONE STUDENT FUSAL, 3 YEARS OF COURT AND ATTORNEYS AND fighting to finally get HIS DIPLOMA. She will not be prepared for USMLE. Clinical clerkship via Hope is not a guarantee. HMI students keep coming back for 30 minutes rotations. What can you learn in 30 minutes? School is getting worse and worse. There are less and less American kids now at Silesia. It's full of Middle Eastern students now because they don't have to take any exams like USMLE. What you read on these sites are true. Students know the answers to the examination questions even before taking the exam so what is the point of studying. The teachers know but they don't care so they'll give you the same examination questions.

    Honest opinion: You seem to like your sister. Yes America schools are tough to get in and also expensive. If your sister is willing to do independent study and tolerate other students who are not here to study then fine. 97% of the students at Silesia are not here to study. 99% guarantee that your sister will not be ready to take the USMLE after her second year or third year of Medical School at Silesia. You can easily BUY THE DIPLOMA from Silesia. If you want to BUY the Diploma, then this is a good place. Trust me, it's not worth is with all the stress of HMI harassing you through the Deans office. I did rotations with Carribbean students and they knew more than us in Silesia. They are more prepared and you'll be forced to study at Carribbean. HMI and the school choses WHO THEY WANT TO TAKE THE USMLE AND WHO THEY DON'T WANT TO!
    No school can guarantee your residency. However, schools can prepare you for a chance to get a higher residency. Silesia is not that school to prepare your sister unfortunately. THEY ALSO DON'T LIKE FOREIGNERS! IT'S A FACT! so she has to be very careful in Silesia. I could go on and on and on and on but bottom line is this:

    if she has a chance to pay more and go to Carribean school, do it. Increase your chances better than here and you won't have to deal with the HMI mess. If money is an issue and she's willing to work hard, I suggest trying schools like Jagiellonian and Warsaw and Gdansk. More competitive to get in but she'll have peace of mind to study. She'll have to do her rotations in Poland but they also allow students to do rotations away during her final year. I will advise her to stay away from Silesia, Lublin and Bialystok and Hope Schools. In the end, she'll end up paying more for nothing. If she has a chance at going to Carribbean, PLEASE DO IT! I'M BEGGING YOU, DON'T LET HER MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS I DID! EVERYONE WHO CAME here regrets it! It won't take long before she regrets Silesia and Hope are the wrong place to be! However, you are free to come to Silesia to experience it yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duzzy View Post
    If you are able to pay out of pocket then I'd run from anything that HMI is a part of. The only benefit of having them is that they always seem to have FAFSA worked out but it comes at a steep price. The tuition at Lublin is about 23-24k a year, more money than a US undergrad university. If you are willing to pay that much cash then I'd suggest you help your sister stay in the US, do undergrad, and then try to get into a 4 year US medical school. It is more expensive but you're almost guaranteed a residency while graduating from Poland is always a risk. However, if you want to go to Poland, then do Warsaw, UJ, Poznan, or maybe Gdansk.

    Well I think she can apply for private loans for those schools. They have to do it manually. Sallie Mae still lend to those schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_23 View Post
    Well I think she can apply for private loans for those schools. They have to do it manually. Sallie Mae still lend to those schools.

    ya but Sallie Mae is a devil in sheep's clothing. Use it only if it's a last resort.

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    I would strongly advise finishing undergrad in North America and applying to American Medical Schools or Caribbean.
    I did attend this school, and started first of 6. Just as previously mentioned, 99% of the students are not there to study and become any sorts of MD's. Infact, one student is talking about his DJing.. what real medical student has time to be a DJ?? and includes that he has to take extra time to know the material.. complete contradiction of himself... I would be careful of what advise you get from who and ask about their hobbies..

    The school does have a problem with violence, drinking and drugs. They have been on the Polish news for Drug Raids and the students are always going to the Dean's office for threats and "petitions" of some sorts regarding boys not getting along and threatening each other in the dorms and classes.
    I lived in the dormitory and it was not so bad. I have recently heard from students living in the dorms that the conditions amongst the students are very bad and quickly progressing to an even worse situation.

    Its a completely self study, tutor, learn and teach yourself. You cannot find a tutor or professor to answer any questions. Nothing is set up there for students. No guidance, no tutoring. Maybe you can find an older student to help you.. but as previous people mentioned.. there not good people nor students.

    Goodluck with your decision, I hope it works out.
    Last edited by Chris_; 08-19-2014 at 01:40 PM.

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    So much hatred on here. The truth is, that everyone who is actually succeeding in this school is way too busy to spend their time talking about how bad this school is. No where, even in the US, will the school prepare you for the USMLE unless you prepare yourself. I'm studying with US students right now and do you know how they pass their exams? 12 hours at the library Monday through Sunday. Additionally, there isn't a SINGLE question that you cannot find the answer to online or in the book. So you don't really need to ask questions to professors anyways. Yes this isn't an ideal program, but it is a great way to get everything you need: Federal Loans, California accreditation, US clinical rotations. You have to pass the NBME? Of course you do. You have to anywhere else you go. If you want to go to the US that's a great thing. It prepares you for what's ahead. People who complain simply have not studied the way they should have and now they're pissed they don't know anything. That's on you, not on the school. You were given the opportunity. It's time you take responsibility for your own deficiencies.

    The rest of us who did what we were told to do, are just fine. So it's unfortunate that you are persuading people against achieving their goals simply because of your own inadequacies. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you will find peace and positivity, the sooner you will become more adequate and hopefully even succeed. Good luck to you.

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