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    Can you make a comparison between Jagiellonian and Lodz?

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    Which one is better in what, can you make an evaluation? Thank you for any insight.

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    Lodz scores less on the national Polish licensing exams. UJ is viewed as more prestigious, reputable, cultural and historic.
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    Plus, Krakow.

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    Krakow is beautiful and The biggest thing: Its English division program is California approved for licensure unlike Lodz. Theres been a lot of graduates to go on to residencies in the US for many years.

    Regarding Lodz: I've heard of only1-2 that are actually doing residency in the US since its inception. That makes you wonder about the level of education/teaching is comes out of Lodz and the resultant grads not doing residencies---which are too numerous to count. The only reason those 2 people got a residency is because they studied really hard, On their Own, and not due to the direct teaching by Lodz's professors. And where are the US/UK rotations?? Rumors are that there arent any that are being offered by Alliance Institute of Medicine.
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    so I went to Lodz over the weekend, and it is a very unappealing, communist like architecture looking city. I highly do not recommend it, purely as it looks rather gloomy and uneventful. Those studying the 6 year M.D. programs, go to cities that have something to offer other than the M.D. title. Krakow (beautiful city, and go to the mountains in zakopane) or Warsaw, very rather expensive but open party and cultural city. Or gdansk, with the baltic sea and sopot polands party city. But NOT Lodz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U of T undergrad View Post
    Lodz scores less on the national Polish licensing exams. UJ is viewed as more prestigious, reputable, cultural and historic.
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    Please google translate it... Information above is incorrect. For the LEP (Polish medical license exam) Lodz scores better.

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    If I am wrong please correct me, but "Centrum Egzaminów Medycznych w Łodzi" means "Medical Exam Center in Lodz", right? May it be a local thing? I hear some good things about Lodz, but is it better than those top-notchs?

    I wanted to see that statistical material in detail, but I couldnt find a link.

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    Yes it is. The way I understand it to be is that the CEM in Lodz is the test checking body for LEP and many other exams (ex: Dentistry, pharmacy etc)

    The link is below to the data.
    Centrum Egzaminów Medycznych w Łodzi
    You'll have to drill down a few clicks
    - LEP - Statystki - Luty 2012 and click the button.

    The examination results show up in a few tables. The one that this article is mentioning is the "ukonczonych wydzialow" (by different divisions).

    It's difficult to compare apples to apples, but from my friends here in Lodz that study medicine, the polish medical division is quite top notch.

    Hope that helps.

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    Thekoz in the second chart it looks they, three of them, Lodz, Gdansk and Jagiellonian are neck and neck with 00.81, 00.29 and 00.21 respectively. Interesting. I put into account the number of students who took the exam, then to drop to 2nd and 3rd ranks for Gdansk and Jag gets understandable since as the number increases, the score deviates less and Lodz has less number of students, which means the score has a higher deviation. Its like what: if you profit $100 in 2011 and $200 in 2012, you can look as if you grew 100% Little companies use this trick a lot.. But even by putting this point into account, its good to see Lodz that successful though I think the intl students dont have a great interest in this exam.

    Can you tell the difference between the 2nd, 3rd and 4th charts in the statystika page of CEM? I couldnt

    edit: About Jag there are two factors one good and one bad. Bad one: It has a wider range in scores with 89 and 171 margins, this pulls the average down. Good one: There must be a serious drift towards high scores to keep the average still high despite the low scores. Gdansk looks the most stable one by that regard.
    Out of this, if the SD (Standard Deviation) point was kept out of the average point, then by getting it into account as well by multiplying the averages with SD, the top one comes out as Jagiellonian. I couldnt know how to interpret the average, with or without SD.
    Last edited by bidiboom; 04-16-2012 at 06:34 AM.

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