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    Any current MUA 5th term students here? Can you talk about the comp shelf pass rate?

    If there are any CURRENT MUA students on this forum can you tell me anything about the comp shelf pass rate for your class? Specifically, I want to know the following things...

    1. How many people began the first term in your class.
    2. How many people made it to the fifth term.
    3. How many people do you know out of those people that made it to the fifth term passed the comprehensive shelf exam the FIRST time?

    Thanks!

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    Yea if you read my post that was the only reason I could say would give them a reason to cook the numbers.

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    SaSpursfan,

    A few questions for you if you don't mind...

    1. Did you have a science background before coming to MUA?
    2. How many hours did you have to sit in lecture at MUA?
    3. What's the environment like over there? Are people happy or constantly stressed?
    4. What's the hardest course and why?
    5. IYO, Things MUA is doing wrong? Things they are doing right?

    Thanks

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    1.Yes bachelors of science in biology
    2. From 8-5 pm pretty much through out med 1-5. 90% attendance. Fuc* that shi*. Pardon my French but it wouldnít be so bad letís say if all the courses were worth your time or had good professors
    3. Itís med school....in the caaribean. People are always stressed. Beautiful beaches though so that is nice.
    4. Hardest course depends on your self. For me it was immunology bc they crammed it into a month (ridiculous) and immuno at times sounds like a foreign language. Also neuro is hard too bc they spend a whole semester on it studying relatively low yield material considering imo. But not so difficult as immuno for me just annoying c I felt it was low yield.
    5. This would take along time to answer via typing. Haha sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaSpursfan View Post
    1.Yes bachelors of science in biology
    2. From 8-5 pm pretty much through out med 1-5. 90% attendance. Fuc* that shi*. Pardon my French but it wouldnít be so bad letís say if all the courses were worth your time or had good professors
    Get the uck out of here. 8-5??? You sure that isn't an exaggeration? What do you possibly cover in lecture from 8-5? That's like going to work and then going to to a second job just for the studying.

    I was told some schools, SGU specifically, have only four hours of lecture + a few labs and small groups. Do you think a schedule like that would have been better for you? I was wondering how MUA was advertising 30-34 credit hours a term and now you're saying that they really do keep you in class for around 40 hours a week. At the college level, we are told to study 1.5 hours for each hour of lecture so the MUA schedule pretty much means most people are just bound to fail or at the least not sleep.

    Now that you have passed, what is the next step for you? Do you take STEP1 soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjohn1990 View Post
    Get the uck out of here. 8-5??? You sure that isn't an exaggeration? What do you possibly cover in lecture from 8-5? That's like going to work and then going to to a second job just for the studying.

    I was told some schools, SGU specifically, have only four hours of lecture + a few labs and small groups. Do you think a schedule like that would have been better for you? I was wondering how MUA was advertising 30-34 credit hours a term and now you're saying that they really do keep you in class for around 40 hours a week. At the college level, we are told to study 1.5 hours for each hour of lecture so the MUA schedule pretty much means most people are just bound to fail or at the least not sleep.

    Now that you have passed, what is the next step for you? Do you take STEP1 soon?

    OOOOHHH IM SURE because i went through that hell. They waste your time will filler classes like "clinical correlates" just to make a good appearance but are a waste of time. I have a picture of my class mates during the 10 min break we (suppose to get) get ever hour where like 6 of us were sitting outside of the class room just passed out from being tired. This is without a doubt the top 1 or 2 things that is hated about mua. No time to properly study after words. TERRIBLE. 100% believe other better caaribean schools were better at the scheduling.
    Now I am studying for STEP1 exam.
    With all this negative things said, all the schools have their flaws because once you understand it is a for profit origination that will help you have the proper mindset on why they do the things they do. That said out of all the Caribbean mean schools if you can go to any of the top (4 or 5) go to them, i wouldn't go to any of the lesser ones under SGU, AUC, ROSS, SABA, MUA (I'm not sure AUA is getting loans anymore so thats why I don't list them here). If you get into any of the top 5 go there. If you get into all of them then go to SGU (if the money is not a concern more important than quality of institute)> AUC > ROSS~SABA (mind you those schools have large class sizes)> MUA (small class sizes)... if i could have my pick of any (without having to get through the premed program like they suggested I do) I would go to AUC...my cousin went there and I have seen the campus and hear from him. But at the end of the day it was gods plan for me to go to MUA and i am grateful that I am where I am. In fact if I did go to AUC the hurricane of 2017s would have hit and closed down the school WHILE i was in my 5th semester. So it was destiny in some ways. On that topic if you go to ROSS they currently have classes in Tennessee due to the campus being shut down due to the hurricane, my friend is currently there. I believe AUC is closed down too and having classes in England. I am not 100% sure about that but thats what my cousin said but he has already gotten off the island the semester before the hurricane.

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    Also about the environment....MUA is the cheapest for a reason....the campus is very very very minimalistic, literally just enough to get by. Stuff like no papertowles in the bathroom, a gym like the one you would fine in a crappy hotel, basically one building. But that why it is cheaper.
    As far as did other people also get 67...I know a couple of friends who have gotten that but a lot of people who missed it by 8 points or 10 points and some by 20-30 points...which is why i was so frustrated to be grouped with them in the same positions considering they got a 42 for example and i missed 68 by 1 point, but hey i used it to get stronger so it was for the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaSpursfan View Post
    Also about the environment....MUA is the cheapest for a reason....the campus is very very very minimalistic, literally just enough to get by. Stuff like no papertowles in the bathroom, a gym like the one you would fine in a crappy hotel, basically one building. But that why it is cheaper.
    As far as did other people also get 67...I know a couple of friends who have gotten that but a lot of people who missed it by 8 points or 10 points and some by 20-30 points...which is why i was so frustrated to be grouped with them in the same positions considering they got a 42 for example and i missed 68 by 1 point, but hey i used it to get stronger so it was for the best
    SaSpursfan,

    Thanks for this info. It's weird how the school portrays itself one way on their website and their brochures and then when you hear from the students who went there, it gives you a very different impression.

    Based on the stats you described for your class, would you feel comfortable saying that if someone chooses to go to MUA, they have something like a 20% chance of making it off the island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjohn1990 View Post
    SaSpursfan,

    Thanks for this info. It's weird how the school portrays itself one way on their website and their brochures and then when you hear from the students who went there, it gives you a very different impression.

    Based on the stats you described for your class, would you feel comfortable saying that if someone chooses to go to MUA, they have something like a 20% chance of making it off the island?

    based on the stats sure....but you can't view life and trying to become a doctor like that. If i think about how many people who told me I wouldnt make it this far or how many people in the first day of bio 1 on the first day of college wanted to go to med school and made it to the half way point where I am I would say it is less than 5% so the way I think about it is that means I have 20% MORE of a chance to be a doctor than sitting at home and giving up. A lot of those 80% end up repeating and they eventually make it off and the ones who fail out...I am sorry to say this but a lot of them are not as driven, motivated, hard working, or intelligent as you need to be to make it in this field. It is a good school but i just wanted to tell you the stuff that school wont tell you. Dosent mean i don't recommend it. I would 100% recommend it over the lower tier schools without a doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjohn1990 View Post
    Hi SaSpursfan,

    Thanks for that info. I found a couple of things interesting with your post. Since you were in the top 10 of your class, what do you think was the reason for not passing the comp shelf on the first two attempts? Do you think the school did not prepare you for the test? I also find it strange that you got a 67. How convenient that it is only 1 point away from their passing score. Do you know of anybody who missed the pass by just a point? I would find that suspicious and not a coincidence. A 20% pass rate for that exam is very scary. Isn't "cooking the numbers" illegal?

    Any thoughts on MUA that you are willing to share? My dilemma is that MUA is the cheapest title IV route but I found out you guys have a comp shelf and you also have a shelf for step 2 and I don't know how I feel about that because I've heard all types of stories of people who get tripped up with those exams. Did you like MUA? Would you recommend it to a new student? Any thoughts on SGU vs. MUA if you are familiar with SGU?

    Congrats on passing though. I'm sure you must be very relieved.
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    https://youtu.be/swKA0hAMufU

    If fraud happens at devry schools (AUC,Ross) then I have no doubt it happens at lesser schools

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