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    The following questions are for both current and former students at MUA:

    As current and former MUA students, do you feel that you obtain a solid education? Do you feel that MUA properly prepared you for the USMLE and for the match? Did the faculty and administration conduct themselves in a professional manner? Did they faculty and administration create rewarding curriculum?

    I have heard that the administration is currently changing the faculty. Apparently they are replacing very qualified professors with unqualified personnel in effort to reduce the overhead cost of having qualified professors. I would like to know if this is true or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS4 View Post
    The following questions are for both current and former students at MUA:

    As current and former MUA students, do you feel that you obtain a solid education? Do you feel that MUA properly prepared you for the USMLE and for the match? Did the faculty and administration conduct themselves in a professional manner? Did they faculty and administration create rewarding curriculum?

    I have heard that the administration is currently changing the faculty. Apparently they are replacing very qualified professors with unqualified personnel in effort to reduce the overhead cost of having qualified professors. I would like to know if this is true or not.
    I am a current MUA student in Med 5, I did pre-med down here as well. I have not taken the USMLE yet, but I can tell you I do feel that I am on the right track and have received an education here at MUA that has equipped me with the right tools and knowledge to succeed on step and beyond. I never had a professor that was unprofessional or didn't know their field very well. I have to honestly say, the curriculum in the courses are very well tuned into what is expected of you as a medical student to know in order to exceed on these exams plus more, what you do with it and the effort you put into your medical school course work, well that is up to you. After being here for 7 semesters, and now beginning to go through Uworld/kaplan/NBME questions, I can tell you that the professors most certainly have taken a pass through these resources as well and incorporate the important points into the curriculum as needed. You have to remember that this is a caribbean medical school like any other school down here. With that being said, I have not heard nor witnessed this "replacement" of professors for "unqualified" professors with respect to their knowledge base since I have been here in 2011. In fact, almost all of the professors that have taught me since I have started here are still here besides a few. If you are asking if we have gotten new professors since I have been here, well the answer is yes. I think that just comes with the whole caribbean medical school thing though, no one sets up shop in the caribbean for the rest of their career unless this is a place that you have come to retire to. Retainment rate with any school in the Caribbean I would imagine is low, with of course exceptions; Especially, when the schools start recruiting professors from the US and Canada, this is just a "switch it up"/"life experience" for most professors...they don't plan on staying for the long haul, that is just the reality. Sometimes, I have to admit, schools down here hire professionals in their field with more importance on whether they are from the US or Canada rather than if they are actually good lecturers or not or have been in the field of academia. That is just something that gives schools down here in the eyes of US and Canadian Medical Board's "more credibility" unfortunately when they can recruit staff from the US and Canada; I know this doesn't make sense, but on paper, if your faculty has earned their degree, especially if it comes from the countries you are trying to go back to, it seems to garner importance. Some of my best professors were trained in India with their MBBS though and I am not surprised because of the rigorous curriculum and standards they have there. MCQ questions like we receive are not heard of and their exams are mostly oral and written! Don't get me wrong, these select few of professors that comes from the US and Canada are VERY knowledgable they are just not the greatest lecturers...that is when your ppt slides and your ability to sit down and go through the material well comes in handy...like I said before, all of the material is provided. Hope this helps, mind you, this is just my take on things and from a perspective of my experience here. Overall from what I can see and the changes that have been implemented since I have been down here, the school is proactive in making changes to curriculum/policies as needed in order to match to the best of their ability what you would find in US medical schools since we are coming either back to the states or Canada to try to obtain residency and practice. See what others have to say and you should get a clearer picture for the answers to yours questions. All the best!
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    I haven't take the USMLE (the equalizer) yet, so can't judge this education I am receiving. However, I feel they teach adequately. Enough material to study 6-8 hours every night after full-day classes + lab. The faculties are generally approachable for questions/concerns. the administration is crap. the island is crap. the locals are generally lazy, so administrative errands are something you don't look forward to. the student body is the one thing that will make me want to stay.

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    Well said, Latieungao. I feel MUA is giving us a great education. The administration here is lacking, the locals are joke, and locals who work for the school are even worse! I agree as well that you can't expect anything to done in a timely manner here. But you're right, the student body will keep people here.

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    I also agree with the previous posters.

    I believe mua teaches well to pass the usmle and even beyond that.
    nearly all my friends and mua and myself matched without any issues. some of us even got very competitive residencies.

    rewarding curriculum, well I'm not sure about that. some profs have a talet for teaching and make anything interesting. some dont. Same as any major North American university or college.

    the faculty don't get paid much, so I can't see why they would want to replace them. I met faculty who were super over qualified and taught there because they wanted to. some come from countries who don't pay that much, and i suppose for them the pay is more important. I would not worry about the rumors about faculty. I'm sure that the school would start losing accreditation if they had unqualified people teaching.
    Quote Originally Posted by PS4 View Post
    The following questions are for both current and former students at MUA:

    As current and former MUA students, do you feel that you obtain a solid education? Do you feel that MUA properly prepared you for the USMLE and for the match? Did the faculty and administration conduct themselves in a professional manner? Did they faculty and administration create rewarding curriculum?

    I have heard that the administration is currently changing the faculty. Apparently they are replacing very qualified professors with unqualified personnel in effort to reduce the overhead cost of having qualified professors. I would like to know if this is true or not.

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    From my observation of only one MUA graduate (so take it with a grain of salt), book knowledge was outstanding but clinical skills were poor! Then of course, with USMLE scores being so crucial to securing a U.S. residency, I can see why the emphasis is on getting high scores!
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    From my observation of only one MUA graduate (so take it with a grain of salt), book knowledge was outstanding but clinical skills were poor! Then of course, with USMLE scores being so crucial to securing a U.S. residency, I can see why the emphasis is on getting high scores!
    I personally am not worried about developing many clinical skills while doing my basic sciences on the island at MUA, I feel as though I have already developed most of mine wheil as a tech in the ER for almost 2 years. MUA is now begining to integrate more and more clinical courses during your while duration here. Well, take that back, they told us in orientation that they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisiana View Post
    I personally am not worried about developing many clinical skills while doing my basic sciences on the island at MUA, I feel as though I have already developed most of mine wheil as a tech in the ER for almost 2 years. MUA is now begining to integrate more and more clinical courses during your while duration here. Well, take that back, they told us in orientation that they are
    So on the whole, you admit that the clinical portion of your studies at MUA is weak and you have to rely on your previous experiences to make up for it?
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    I have yet to get into upper FCMs being I am in my first semester here. With that being said, I'm not sure how I will feel about MUA's clinical instruction on the island. I just think I have already developed a good set of clinical skills from being in the ER for so long. Now obviously, when I leave the island and start clinicals, I will develop my skills further. But really, at the this stage in the game during basic sciences, shouldn't we be more focus on our studies and taking the step exam, rather than developing clinical skills? Just me $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisiana View Post
    I have yet to get into upper FCMs being I am in my first semester here. With that being said, I'm not sure how I will feel about MUA's clinical instruction on the island. I just think I have already developed a good set of clinical skills from being in the ER for so long. Now obviously, when I leave the island and start clinicals, I will develop my skills further. But really, at the this stage in the game during basic sciences, shouldn't we be more focus on our studies and taking the step exam, rather than developing clinical skills? Just me $.02
    Quote Originally Posted by sc135753 View Post
    I am a current MUA student in Med 5, I did pre-med down here as well. I have not taken the USMLE yet, but I can tell you I do feel that I am on the right track and have received an education here at MUA that has equipped me with the right tools and knowledge to succeed on step and beyond. I never had a professor that was unprofessional or didn't know their field very well. I have to honestly say, the curriculum in the courses are very well tuned into what is expected of you as a medical student to know in order to exceed on these exams plus more, what you do with it and the effort you put into your medical school course work, well that is up to you. After being here for 7 semesters, and now beginning to go through Uworld/kaplan/NBME questions, I can tell you that the professors most certainly have taken a pass through these resources as well and incorporate the important points into the curriculum as needed. You have to remember that this is a caribbean medical school like any other school down here. With that being said, I have not heard nor witnessed this "replacement" of professors for "unqualified" professors with respect to their knowledge base since I have been here in 2011. In fact, almost all of the professors that have taught me since I have started here are still here besides a few. If you are asking if we have gotten new professors since I have been here, well the answer is yes. I think that just comes with the whole caribbean medical school thing though, no one sets up shop in the caribbean for the rest of their career unless this is a place that you have come to retire to. Retainment rate with any school in the Caribbean I would imagine is low, with of course exceptions; Especially, when the schools start recruiting professors from the US and Canada, this is just a "switch it up"/"life experience" for most professors...they don't plan on staying for the long haul, that is just the reality. Sometimes, I have to admit, schools down here hire professionals in their field with more importance on whether they are from the US or Canada rather than if they are actually good lecturers or not or have been in the field of academia. That is just something that gives schools down here in the eyes of US and Canadian Medical Board's "more credibility" unfortunately when they can recruit staff from the US and Canada; I know this doesn't make sense, but on paper, if your faculty has earned their degree, especially if it comes from the countries you are trying to go back to, it seems to garner importance. Some of my best professors were trained in India with their MBBS though and I am not surprised because of the rigorous curriculum and standards they have there. MCQ questions like we receive are not heard of and their exams are mostly oral and written! Don't get me wrong, these select few of professors that comes from the US and Canada are VERY knowledgable they are just not the greatest lecturers...that is when your ppt slides and your ability to sit down and go through the material well comes in handy...like I said before, all of the material is provided. Hope this helps, mind you, this is just my take on things and from a perspective of my experience here. Overall from what I can see and the changes that have been implemented since I have been down here, the school is proactive in making changes to curriculum/policies as needed in order to match to the best of their ability what you would find in US medical schools since we are coming either back to the states or Canada to try to obtain residency and practice. See what others have to say and you should get a clearer picture for the answers to yours questions. All the best!
    Wow thank you for such a detail response. You pretty much nailed it.

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