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    Oregon State Medical License

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    I know this topic has been discussed in the past. I am curious if anyone knows what the current status on Oregon state is. Looking at their website it appears they are still following the California list. I have also heard that they will evaluate applicants on a case by case basis. Has anyone actually been successful obtaining a permanent license in Oregon?

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    I recommend calling the state medical board yourself, they can give you the most reliable answer.

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    Oregon's sole requirement is that your school should not be disapproved by any State Medical Board in the US. So as long as you are graduating from a school that is NOT published as a disapproved school by ANY medical board, you will be fine in Oregon.
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    Not true. Check Oregon's website.

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    i read the website. you must not be at a disapproved school. then... if its not on the cali approved list it is case by case. but its best to call and ask.

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    Here are some of the requirements for IMGs directly from Oregon's website as of this date:

    (A) The medical school must be chartered in the country in which it is located.

    (B) The graduate must have attended at least four full terms of instruction of eight months each, with all courses having been completed by physical on-site attendance in the country in which the school is chartered. The requirement for four full terms of instruction of eight months each term may be waived for any applicant for licensure who has graduated from an international school of medicine, has substantially complied with the attendance requirements provided herein, and is certified by a specialty board recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS) or the American Osteopathic Associationís Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists (AOA-BOS).

    (C) Any institutions in which clinical clerkships were obtained in a country other than that in which the school is chartered must provide a certificate to prove the time spent and the satisfactory completion of the clerkships. After June 30, 1988, clinical clerkships served in the United States or Canada shall be taken only in institutions which conduct residencies approved by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education or the College of Family Physicians of Canada or the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada or the American Osteopathic Association in the specific subject of the clerkship.

    (D) The applicant must provide the Board with documentation to substantiate that the medical school from which the applicant graduated provided a resident course of professional instruction equivalent to that provided in a medical school approved by either the Liaison Committee on Medical Education of the American Medical Association or by the Committee on Accreditation of Canadian Medical Schools of the Canadian Medical Association. The international medical school from which the applicant graduated may be considered equivalent if it is on the list of medical schools recognized by the Medical Board of California or if chartered in one of the countries determined by the United States Department of Educationís National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation (NCFMEA) to use accreditation standards comparable to those used to accredit medical schools in the United States, and is accredited by that countryís accrediting body. The Board may determine that an international medical school is not equivalent if the Board receives documentation that the medical school has had its authorization, accreditation, certification or approval denied or removed by any state, country or territorial jurisdiction or that its graduates were refused a license by any state, country or territorial jurisdiction on the grounds that the school failed or fails to meet reasonable standards for medical education facilities.


    According to B we have to do 4 terms of 8 months in Nevis or St. Kitts. do we do this? No, I don't think so.

    C states that if you do clerkships in the US they have to be done at places with ACGME or AOA approved residencies in the specific topic of the clerkship. In other words if you did a Ob/gyn rotation in a place without an approved Ob/gyn residency, then it doesn't count. (In other words, greenbook to specialty)

    D says that the school has to be approved by the LCME or the NCFMEA. MUA is not. In this case the school may be approved if its on Cali's approved list. MUA is not. They may reject your application if the school has been disapproved by any state, or license has been denied to any graduate because "the school failed or fails to meet reasonable standards for medical education facilities." I'm not aware that that has happened, so MUA is not automatically disapproved on those grounds.
    As such it would be incorrect to say that since MUA is not expressly disapproved you are fine. You still have to do rotations that are greenbook, and then hope that they agree that MUA provides an equivalent education. I suspect that recent AAMC approval may help if you can connect the dots for them that NCFMEA relies in part on AAMC in some of its equivalence decisions.
    A guy did IM residency there in a Portland hospital (Legacy Emmanuel) where I worked for a few years, I don't know if he ever applied for and got licensure after his 3 year residency, but that is the only person I know of who did residency in Oregon.

    As MUA is neither approved by any of Oregon's standards, nor disapproved by any of those above standards it lies in an ambiguous zone where you will have to demonstrate to the board that your education was equivalent, and its anybody's guess as to whether they will accept your documentation. The best way to have an idea is to call them.

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    Good points. We most likely meet the NCFMEA criteria as of May 2010: ACCM Welcome to ACCM - The Accreditation Commission on Colleges of Medicine notice it specifically states MUA *Nevis Island not KItts.

    or if chartered in one of the countries determined by the United States Department of Educationís National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation (NCFMEA) to use accreditation standards comparable to those used to accredit medical schools in the United States, and is accredited by that countryís accrediting body.

    To fulfill (B) you would have to be board certified. All things considered I assume they would give you a fair shake once you are ABMS Cert.Best to call them and lay out the details of the recent ACCM approval if interested in OR.

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    graig i hope all is well congrats on your pysch residency i still remember the night before the comp . with Mo at that restaurant cheers

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