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    NaiveToCynic is offline Permanently Banned 510 points
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    Do I absolutely have to read Robins cover to cover to pass Path II?

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    Could a STUDENT tell us if it is absolutely necessary to read Robins cover to cover to do well in this class. I spoke with a few Med 5 students and I got the impression that maybe one or two people attempted reading the book cover to cover, most simply used it as a reference when the lecture was not clear enough. I'm not trying to get away with minimal work but simply trying to be realistic and distribute my time in the most productive manner and do really well not just pass the class.

    I know some people only read the Goljan pathology book but from what I understand they were never able to get a top grade during the block exams.
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    Many of the path teachers, and level of difficulty of the course has changed since i took path 1 and 2 so take my advice in that context. Robbins is a reference book it is not designed to be read as a regular text book. Here is my advice:

    1) go online and sign up for USMLE World question bank, these are some of the most difficult and comprehensive questions out their and you will learn alot not only for class but for your boards. My grade in Path literally jumped from failing the first test to getting a B on the second. They are not at all similar to the questions we got in class, but they got you thinking in a certain way so that when you got to the test you could handle it.

    2) Get Golgians book Rapid review Path, don't be mislead my the title it is rather comprehensive, its a difficult read because its in a list/ outline format so find someone with the Golgian audio tapes and listen to them first and then make sense of his notes. There are also questions in the back of the book which maybe helpful.

    3) Do the Robbins questions again may not be representative of your test but will give good info.

    Path is one of those courses where you need to do alot of questions, especially since you have no time to read with the current schedule.

    4) Also for Dr. S in path II if you and someone else can go over each ppt everyday until exam day that will be helpful as well.

    Hope this helps good luck

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    awesome, thanks.

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    generally speaking not a good way to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephew View Post
    generally speaking not a good way to learn.
    Would you like to contribute to the proper way to handle the 1400 page book that we are being asked to read cover to cover within 9 weeks? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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    im guessing you want more than that you should simply tell the professor that if that is what's required for his class, then he doesn't deserve his salary and you shouldn't be paying tuition.
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    textbooks

    As one of the professors who teaches path I and II, I require students to read certain pages in Robbins. I ask exam questions from those assigned pages and don't necessarily cover the assigned reading in class. In my opinion, it is pointless to assign a textbook for the class and never use it.

    The powerpoints for path are now required to list the pages in Robbins that correspond to the material covered in class. Again, due to time constraints, some material in Robbins will be assigned that is not covered in class in order to get students to read their textbook.

    I also have put an electronic copy of the text on the classroom computer desktop for med 4 and 5.
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    Here are other pointers from a PM I received:
    I did read Robbin's as much as I could. I needed to read the book to understand the power point lectures. Very difficult to read but I think it pays off in the end. I didn't read it cover to cover but for the important organ systems like renal, endocrine, cardiac, GI, Pulmonary, Liver etc, I read the book. The amount of reading I was able to do depended on how many chapters we covered in class. Path One wasn't taught as fast but I read the book during that time too. I also did the kaplan path (most people do that during kaplan time). For many of the lectures I also used Goljan but I didn't have time to listen to the audios. Do web path, Robins review book. For the path shelf, all I had time to do was study kaplan path but the shelf is a mixture of everything, micro, genetics , etc. I think by reading the Robbins book that the important concepts were re-inforced. I know people that passed without reading the book, so I guess everyone is different. I am a strong visual learner so reading is the way I learn best. I would try to read the book once and go over the power points at least 2-3 times and then do questions to see if I could apply the knowledge. Some people actually liked the baby Robbins.... Some people are auditory learners so they would probably do best by taping the lectures, listening to Goljan and kaplan. Naive to Cynic you are the best!!!

    (Just kidding!!!!! the last line was not part of the original message I made that up )

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    N to C, if you are going into MED 5 did you not cover the first part of path in med 4. we covered almost half the book if not more. were you reading it in med 4 ? we will have the same profs, the same ppt lecture styles, nothing will change! my question is, how were you studying in med 4 path ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundam675 View Post
    N to C, if you are going into MED 5 did you not cover the first part of path in med 4. we covered almost half the book if not more. were you reading it in med 4 ? we will have the same profs, the same ppt lecture styles, nothing will change! my question is, how were you studying in med 4 path ?
    Thank you for your contribution, could you elaborate a little more on what your schedule will be like in Med 5 which will give you room to read the other half of the book and handle all the other material? thanks.
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