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    I just had my interview with Dr. C who is the Clinicals Coordinator for MUA. I know that we complain a lot about our clinicals, but after this meeting I think a lot of it is unwarranted. I plan to try and practice in Texas when I get done and she assured me that we have 2 MUA students completing residencies there as we speak, who are also in the process of applying for permanent licensure there. It's not guaranteed that they will get it, but it's nice to know that it is a good possibilty.

    Also I think the whole deal with waiting forrever after passing step 1 is somewhat blown out of proportion. If you pass at the right time then there will be spots available but if you are irregular then you just have to wait for the next go round for openings. All caribbean medical schools are hurting for rotations so we are not alone.

    At any rate after my meeting I got a lot better feeling about clinicals and want everyone to know that there is light at the end of the tunnel after all... So we should all stop worrying about clinicals until after we have studied our butts off and have passed step 1, which is a lot easier said than done.
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    Hey man,
    I'm glad your interview went well, its good that your maintaining a positive attitude about rotations, however from my experience the reality is quite different. I know many people who have done everything in the allowed time who either still are waiting or have waited 3 months plus for a rotation. However, your second statement is true that this fact is true across the board rotations are tight where-ever you go. But don't take my word on it find out from the last two graduating classes, i know a bunch of them are on facebook and on here as well. Also double check on all the licensing laws with Texas, Im not disputing what your saying with that, i have just heard some many different things in regards to licensing and rotations that i dont want to see you or anyone get stuck in a licensing nightmanre. These are just words of caution not a judgment, i have been out of the loop for sometime so maybe im wrong. Good luck!

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    Inaccurate

    There is no student who has passed the USMLE on the first attempt with any score who has not yet been assigned a clinical core within 3 months. Anyone who waited longer than 3 months it is BECAUSE THEY REFUSED THE ASSIGNMENT. Once they start the clinical cores they go straight through. I have double checked this with the appropriate Dean from the Gardner Office. Again FACTUAL posts are important. Dean T
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    Good Point

    I know that people still wait, but there are usually reasons for this. 1. they are waiting for a particular location (NY, Houma, Chicaco) 2. although they may have passed within the alotted time they were still just a little too late to get into the current available slots. 3. They took an extension of the 3 months or failed it the on the first attempt.

    One thing that I was excited to hear is that once you start your rotations you are usually set up to go straight through, without big time gaps in between rotations.

    So granted it would be nice to start clinicals as soon as you have a passing score but given the circumstances I think they are doing the best they can. Also don't forget, the Higher the score the easier it is to be placed, since some rotations actually have restrictions. The new owners are very actively working on Clinical sites for MUA, Saba, and SMU so hopefully in the future none of this will be a problem at all.

    I have read all the laws and statutes for the State of Texas and spoken with advisers from the Texas State Medical Board so I know and understand what it will take to obtain licensure in Texas. I would suggest that everyone do the same for whatever state you are from to ensure that you do everything accordingly. It would suck to get to the end only to find out you didn't do something the way your state requires and now you won't be able to obtain licensure there...
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    I thought you were taking a break?
    I take exception to your tone and implication Dean T that i am not being factual. What you are saying maybe what the Gardner office claim, that does not mean it is factually accurate. Besides this is an open forum, for both opinion and discussion. Nowhere in terms of service, does it state i have to be totally "factual," however i endeavor to do so, because anytime someone such as myself make any kind of opposing view point it is met with responses such as yours.
    Moreover, in my post i state that the orgional poster should not take my word on it, but rather seek the counsel from students who have graduated, as well as do personal research, for exampling going to state licensing board sites and double checking laws and regulations.
    Additionally at the end of my post i state that their is a possibility i am mistaken, since much has changed since i have graduated MUA. My comments were meant to add to a further discussion, not to tarnish the name if an institution, which is also why i said the lack of spots is tough across the board these days with all schools.
    If you take this as an attack im sorry, report me to vmd i was merely trying to add to a current discussion, it was only after your post i felt the need to defend myself. If you want less negative things said about your institution, i would suggest not jumping on everything people say that doesnt meet your expectation of factual and constructive criticism. I do not wish to discuss this further, lets us get back to the discussion of clinical rotation! which was the point of this thread, i hope to here different view points and insights, so we can help students get better insight in the process that awaits them ahead.

    My Disclaimer: these remarks are not meant to attack or tarnish MUA, just reporting what i know and have seen, opologies if anyone is offended, this was not ment to be a negative post please make your own judgements.

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    EGX001,
    Seems like you have a handle on it, just wanted to make sure you knew all the info. good luck!

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    Factual

    Its hard to be factual all the time because there is so much information out there it is almost impossible to know everything about anything. But I have learned that getting "facts" from other students is not a very accurate way of getting information. It is really important to be factual so that the right message is portrayed. If you base your opinions and posts off of heresay then a lot of the time it will not be factual. I have learned this first hand, and I myself have told others things that I later found to be grossly incorrect.

    Dean T. is the best source we have for gaining factual information. So although you hear something contrary from another student, chances are they are the ones that are misinformed. It's nice to have Dean T. on this forum to clear things up when the water gets muddied by misinformation.

    I don't think 123's comment was meant to be malicious but sometimes everyone can have misinformation. So lets try to keep it factual and when in doubt hopefully the Dean can shed some light on the situation in a non-offensive way.
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    Break

    I am back from my break but only to post factual information where I see mis-information. Sorry Caribe that you took my tone and implication negatively. Apologies I didn't meant it that way. I think everything you said in your post is accurate right down to the comment you made that nowhere in the TOS does it say you have to be factual. I just checked again. No student who passed step 1 who accepted the assignment they were given waited over 3 months. If there is someone out there for whom this statement is not accurate please PM me so I can confirm the facts and retract my statement. Thanks Dean T
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    Several of my friends who are doing their clinical rotations right now have had no problem getting all of their cores and electives. They took their step 1's and got their clinicals with no problems what so ever. It helped that they worked hard during the basic science and got a good score for their step 1 exams. They are getting ready to match in spring 09. One of them has already been assured an anesthesia slot from one of her attendings. Good for her. I am not sure who is having problems getting in, but pretty much all of the people I know who passed with good marks the first time on their steps got all of their clinicals with no problems. Just work hard and get good scores and you'll be fine.

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    Dr. C. clinical coordinator came to visit our classroom and basically said that she is no longer allowed to place the best students in front of students who do not score well on step 1. As I understood it, once you PASS step 1 regardless of how high or how low the score is you enter the list to be placed on clinical rotations, even if a person who took the exam one day after you received a great score and you didn't you will be given a rotation before that person. If I'm incorrect, all corrections are welcomed

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