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    Good Med School

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    This University will be one of the better places in a few years ...just give it time. Things need changing and they are ....medical school is not for everyone and it is not an easy path ..otherwise everyone would be doing it. The tougher the courses get the better the incoming students will do on step 1 etc. I really like the fact that the Dean is reading our exams before we take them, excellent step...let a real doc take the tests! The only negative is the 90% rule for some classes ie Pharm, please drop that to 80% like the rest. We need more time in the day to get through path...otherwise keep up the good work Dean T.

    PS Also securing a loan provider that does not require a cosigner as many students have no avenue for cosigners. We are in med school and clinicals ..how can we be employed at the same time. We need a similar product as HXpress. PLease help us out MUA!

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    GROUP of 7

    As long as the exams reflect USMLE style Q ...go for it! Also side bar, there are only 4 schools apart from SGU,AUC and Ross that are US state approved as far as I know.

    SO, that means we are in the "group of 7"...has a nice ring to it...and it shows we are a tier above the cut of other offshore schools.

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    777

    Those 7 being:

    SGU
    Ross
    AUC
    Saba
    AUA
    SMU
    MUA

    Looking forward to being on the list of all 50 states which is a much smaller number...
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    yes enter the "group of 5" someday....it will happen ..maybe not in my time to be included, but miracles do happen...still it will be nice to be a grad of the group of 5....

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    back to blocks....

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    Attendance and Loans

    The attendance requirement is a regulatory requirement of some state licensing boards and accrediting bodies. I am working towards an 80% attendance rate BUT some professors with their academic freedom and VERY good reasoning have them slightly higher.

    We are working on some new and exciting programs that will be explained in detail March 18th by a representative of the company running the program. But I have already been around to the classes to announce them so if you missed it you can ask a colleague.. Your administration is fighting for you in a very admirable way! They are truly on your side in the loan department and I am very proud of their efforts.
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    I beg to disagree

    Of course some Profs will come up with "VERY good" reasons...IMO it is a power issue and they have a captive audience. If you have an attendance policy make it 80% accross the board, leaving it up to the Prof is not a good idea. We the students (customers) pay lots of money to be here and if I want to go and study in the library or at home instead of listening to a Prof talk about issues other than the subject at hand then that should be my choice..and I bear the consequences whether I am in class or not anyway. I would go into details but need to focus on the important stuff today.

    Later..

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    Academic Freedom

    Joe, I agree with everything you said. But MUA and Accrediting bodies still believe in the conceptof "Academic Freedom" and while I might lobby hard for 80% I am still a compliance oriented individual who respects the rights of professors. Apologies. Dean T
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    Round and round

    "Academic freedom" is a wonderful thing when applied to anything other than professional schools. A profession REQUIRES standardization. You wouldn't hire an english professor to teach molecular biology, and you wouldn't allow a chemist to teach philosophy during a biochem class. But where do you draw the line? There's more than one way to skin a cat, so the school shouldn't be telling or forcing a prof to teach material in any particular way as long as the required material is being covered. However, if student performance, as well as satisfaction, indicate the method is not condusive then they should be let go. It is my honest opinion that every professor at this campus that requires 90% attendance is quite simply an ego maniac, irregardless of whether they are good or not! Humility in teaching is just as important as it is in practicing medecine, law, or other social services, thus they should be able to come down off their soap boxes or let go. The same applies to testing! It is a disservice to the school, as well as the students, to not maintain exams that follow along the format of the STEPs, thus all attempts should be made to ensure this is done. Cutesie little scenarios using students names, celebrities, or fantastical situations or any other format outside of USMLE clinical viginettes need to go!
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    Agree

    Last night I took several of the block three exams and this morning met with professors to make changes. Agree with the cutesy stuff having no place on an exam and I will address that (may not see a change until next block).

    As far as the 90% requirement implying something negative about the personality of a professor or my being able or willing to defer academic freedom, I respectfully disagree with both counts. I would also suggest that it is may not be proper or professional to refer to a professor as an "egomaniac" based upon their attendance requirement. Remember I am of the firm opinion for Factual, Professional, Caring/Humanistic postings.

    Some professors have experience with class performance at different levels of attendance and they have a formula that works for their class. It would be incorrect for me to disagree with the experience of a professional who has data to support their position. It is always impossible to please everyone. (Although I wish I could). I walked away from one discussion where I tried to get a prof to roll back to 80% where he convinced me that 95% was better!!!!!

    REMEMBER THE SCHOOL POLICY IS THAT AS DEAN I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXCUSE ABSENCES FOR ANY STUDENT WITH GOOD REASON DOWN TO AN 80% LEVEL EVEN IF THE PROF'S REQUIREMENT IS 100%. I JUST NEED TO NOTIFY THE PROF. IF A STUDENT HAS GOOD REASON FOR EXCUSED ABSENCES I AM ALWAYS WILLING TO LISTEN. I realize some students do not learn well in an auditory fashion and as one of those people myself I am sensitive to that. BUT even if excused absences if a student misses any more than 80% of any class it must be repeated that is school policy for the regulatory reasons (states,accreditation) I have already mentioned.

    As far as academic freedom. It is a Tenet I believe in strongly and to which I give a broad definition. It is always better to err on the side of freedoms than the opposite!

    Hope this helps and thanks for the comments.

    Dean T
    Medical University of the Americas, Nevis

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