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    Thank you for appreciating my comments. Here are some helpful thoughts. Stress and a challenging task are both part of every remarkable academic achievement. In excess, these conditions could very likely achieve the opposite result. In excess, these conditions are not necessarily conducive of learning. Being overwhelmed, is not the best state of mind for effective learning. Challenging students could definitely improve their performance. Yet these challenges should be carefully measured. The best analogy I can offer is the following: A plateful of food is best enjoyed and digested in bite size portions. Scarfing it down all at once could lead to indigestion or perhaps even choking. Measured, gradual changes challenges are more likely to achieve the desired result.
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    MUA-Nevis.

    Hello Dean Turkewitz,

    Hope you are doing well.

    Just have few questions for you Mr Dean.

    How long will it be before you guys go for California medical board's approval?

    I've heard a lot of good things about MUA-Nevis, This is actually the first time have heard something negative about the school. Hope this student who is in trouble will get back on track and manage to continue medical school. I don't really know the guy, but it sure can be a shock buried under tons of loans and at the same time getting kicked out from medical school.

    After reading your blogs, I think you seem to be a person who cares about your students, which I think is very important quality for medical school basic sciences dean.

    Wish your school a lot of success, I truly hope you guys get the California boards approval. MUA-Nevis truly deserves it.

    Many thanks.

    Sincerely,
    MDPWR.

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    I've never seen it...

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    GREAT SPEECH DEAN. I have been an observer of valueMD for many years, and have never seen this much school official involvement on MUA forums in the past . I usually see them on threads of schools that are really doing poorly. Again I reserve my right to observe.

    I've observed ValueMD for years as well, and I don't think I have ever seen School Administrators much less the DEAN openly posting on the forums. It doesn't show a school doing poorly, it shows a school that has a DEAN that cares enough about the school and the students well being to log onto a student forum (as himself) and try to help clear up a bunch of ** written about the school.

    By the way SirDaniel, if you are no longer on island how can you say some of the things you are saying with no first hand experience... Have you even met Dean T ? And I'm also currious to how many people you actually know who are transferring?
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    DEAN T. writes

    "If anyone is to blame for this transfer of students it is me but it is because students could not pass a test that would prove to me that they would ultimately with high likelihood be a physician worthy of an MUA diploma."

    It is very arrogant of you to make judgement of who is a "worthy physician." Your basis for evaluating who is a MUA Diploma-Worthy Physician is a post test comprised entirely of questions that come from a Third-Party (Kaplan) question bank and not the NBME. Even Kaplan offers you some type of guarantee or refund if you fail, will MUA follow suit and offer refunds to those who fail. If you are going to evaluate students worthy of an MUA diploma then start using evaluation materials created by MUA for MUA students, and not some third party (Kaplan) post test.

    Dean T, if you spend as much time managing your school as you do on these forums, then I have no doubt MUA is going somewhere.

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    There is plenty of evidence regarding Kaplan performance and USMLE passing likelihood, it is a very useful tool. No Caribbean school has the depth to create a validated testing tool on it's own.....Once again Transducin I agree, Slow change when it is possible is always preferable to rapid change however slow change is not always an option. Stress is always a part of medicine. Imagine the stress of being alone in an ER as the attending with someone in status epilepticus with a fever of 104 a third nerve palsy on the left and a right hemiplegia and no neurologist available which is not uncommon in many small towns. That kind of stress is a whole new level compared to the stress of the changes we are currently putting in place. The changes we are putting in place are absolutely designed to make sure you can deal with the stress that comes when you finally reach practice or advanced medical administration or whatever career path you travel down, which I am positive you will do well at! And yes the school is going somewhere, UP to new heights of excellence! My Best Dean T
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    Thats completely false many of the schools in the caribbean, as well as schools in the states use their "own" comprehensive evulatory exams. Are you telling me that your faculty cannot come together to write a exam that test what they taught their students at MUA. You speak highly of raising the bar and increasing standards. Why dont you start by creating a test that not only measure what students learned comprehensively at MUA but also helps you evaluate, on basis of students performances problamatic areas or academic insufficiency. Using Third Party material is a cop-out, you know many students go on to take the independent Kaplan course after 5th semester anyways.

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    Arrogant???

    Quote Originally Posted by SirDaniel View Post
    It is very arrogant of you to make judgement of who is a "worthy physician." Your basis for evaluating who is a MUA Diploma-Worthy Physician is a post test comprised entirely of questions that come from a Third-Party (Kaplan) question bank and not the NBME. Even Kaplan offers you some type of guarantee or refund if you fail, will MUA follow suit and offer refunds to those who fail. If you are going to evaluate students worthy of an MUA diploma then start using evaluation materials created by MUA for MUA students, and not some third party (Kaplan) post test.

    Dean T, if you spend as much time managing your school as you do on these forums, then I have no doubt MUA is going somewhere.
    I would definately not call it "Arrogant" to be able to distinguish a good student from a bad. Granted I have my own negative feelings about the Kaplan Post Test, but that doesn't stop it from being a fairly good indicator as to how much you learned in your basic sciences and how well you will do in the future. Although I think the exam is given 3 months early, considering they give us that time to study afterwards, I would still consider it "Common Sence" to be able to determine a students abilities from taking a standardized test such as the Kaplan Post Test.

    The only thing the Dean is Arrogant about is his knowledge of Neurology, which is well deserved considering his expertice in the field, and even then I'm not sure I would consider it arrogannce...
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    Validated

    The key word is validated. Genuinely Statistically Validated and Created Quickly! Thanks Dean T
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    The key word is "Semantics"

    I say Tomato you say Tomatoe.

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    tomato and tomatoe are NOT the same as scientifically statistically validated....the latter is a GENUINE issue.....Dean T
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