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    Attendance policy for basic sciences

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    hi...what is the attendance policy for classes at MUA? is it generally the same for all classes or do different teachers have their own policies?

    my friend goes to saba and says that you cant be absent more than 10% for all classes.

    thanks!

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    For med1 it is 10%. However, med2 seems a bit more relaxed and you can miss more (not sure how much though).

    I'm find that attending class is helpful because the profs do (for the most part) an excellent job explaining concepts and highlight the most important material to focus on that is clinically relevant and likely to be on the step 1. Consequently, the 10% rule is being much less of an annoyance.



    Quote Originally Posted by DreamMD2be View Post
    hi...what is the attendance policy for classes at MUA? is it generally the same for all classes or do different teachers have their own policies?

    my friend goes to saba and says that you cant be absent more than 10% for all classes.

    thanks!

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    don1 is correct. The attendance policy for all semesters after Med 1 are 20%. If you are absent for more than the allowed 10% or 20%, you're administratively withdrawn (WF) from the course, I believe. This ends up in academic probation, and repeating of the course...
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    Med 2 is the only one where you have 20% for all. Med 3 and up varies! Neuro, Genetics, Pharm, are all 10% Micro is 15% and Med 5 is usually 10%.

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    The Latest News about Attendance

    Ok the dean understands the catch 22 problem of requiring us to read textbooks and study additional material while at the same time requiring us to sit in class all day ... Unfortunately we are some what restricted by regulating bodies and certain states that require up to 80% attendance policies for FMG students.

    That being said the dean is working to encourage all the professors to only require the minimum of 80% rather than the current 90% we have in some classes. Clinical Medicine, Kaplan, and Micro have all now been changed to 80% for this current semester and next semester all classes should be the minimum 80%. So thank goodness we finally have someone in charge that is able to sympathize our situation and actually act to make it better...

    If the professor is really that great then students will want to show up, but if they are not helping you learn then you now have a little bit more freedom to stay home and study.

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    I have an even better idea, why don't the professors teach the things that are important and make attending class to our advantage rather than disadvantage?

    Somehow making it OK to miss class tells people that class must not be that good!

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    Sucker it up guys. It may seem hard at this time. But really later you will realise it was well worth it. If others ahead of you made it, so can the rest of you. Fact is we all use the same textbooks as US Med Schools do. If you really have your sights on the USMLE, you should read the books. No doctor has gone through medschool without reading textbooks. When all of you get into clinical rotations, its a whole different ball-game. You think the pharm prof is being hard on you when he grills you? Wait 'til you get "pimped" and picked on during your rotations. You will realise the pharm prof will seem too kind. Not enough time? Suggestion: Don't wait for time, you make time. Again, if others have done it, so can you. To a pessimist, my words will seem harsh. To the optimist, it will be an advise. which are you? I tell you it's better to "hurt" now, rather than "hurt" when you face the actual Step1 exam. Doing your work while still on the island will make your review much easier also better-"ing" your chance of doing well on the boards. Don't cut corners, its important to know the material well. It will make it easier for you to integrate subjects later on. If teachers only teach high yield stuff, they will leave a lot of important things that you will need later on. What then? Are you gonna complain again, "Why the he11 they didnt teach these stuff in my med school?" Besides, the main objective of the school is to teach you to become a doctor someday, and then to pass the steps. Complaining does not do much in our case. Conquerors do more than just work to survive. Like our clinical coordinator said, "In medicine, you are one of many big fishes in a very small pond." If you have'nt learned how to make "ado" with what you have by now, better get at it. Otherwise, you will be in for a rude awakening.
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    Yes, those of us destined to become doctors will indeed "make it". Not because others before us did, but because we are smart and we are strong.

    Keep in mind that students such as yourself who went through basic sciences before us had the benefit of curves and some lower order questions. Things have changed at MUA: curving of exam scores and first- or second-order exam questions are no longer allowed. We are graded on raw scores that consist of third-order exam questions. Minimal bonus points in the form of quizzes are only being allowed (e.g. 10 total possible bonus points in Pathology and potentially 50 bonus points in Pharmacology this semester).

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    hey tanaka
    Im confused abt that,i started reading the books but it was taking way too long.Now i just read the notes and only when im stuck i look at the books.Ive been getting As,but im stillnot sure if thats the best plan.How abt reading directly from reviews like the USMLE first aid?Anyone who can add to this is welcome and appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50ishdoc View Post
    I have an even better idea, why don't the professors teach the things that are important and make attending class to our advantage rather than disadvantage?

    Somehow making it OK to miss class tells people that class must not be that good!
    I hope you are not insinuating that MUA should become a "Step 1 Factory" That would really ruin the school and the future of those who have a degree with the MUA logo on it. That would be the worst idea of all, the worst.

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