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    hi everyone, i have a acceptance offer to attend mua. however i was wondering if anyone can offer any insight to my situation.

    in undergrad i slid by thru the help of friends & knowing important ppl* (corrupt TA's). i did well in courses mainly because i had an advantage whether it be a previous tests, assignments or reports from upperclassmen & TAs that were not normally distributed out. And often times the material tested was often very similar or the exact same to the material i had been given. this had allowed me to do well in courses as a result. also most of my elective courses outside of bio or chem, i chose in upper yrs were bird easy courses that padded my gpa. many of the electives i got 4.0s. this is why my prereqs were around 3.0, and my overall was a 3.4.

    however this has me concerned as to whether i will be able to handle the rigours when on nevis. because not many ppl had an advantage like i did. any insight would be useful....also if anybody could suggest pre-studying tips, etc.. I would appreciate that.

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    well, it looks like you enjoyed lying to yourself.....I guess your future patients missed this professor's advice.
    physics professor was explaining a complicated concept when a premed
    student interrupted him.
    “Why do we have to learn this stuff?” the young man blurted out.
    “To save lives,” the professor replied.
    “How does physics save lives?” the smartass student asked.
    “Physics saves lives,” the professor said, “because it keeps certain people out of medical school.”

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    To do what you did for undergrad is not all too uncommon. But, I think when you hit medical school you are not going to get "handouts" like that at all. It's pretty simple, you have to study, study, and then study somemore. I studied a fair amount during undergrad and I'm feeling kinda overwhelmed by the amount of studying I will need to do for medical school. But, I want to be a doctor so the sky's the limit. I don't know anyone out there who would want to be trusting their lives to a doctor who found shortcuts to passing. TonyND seems kinda too overly concerned about people cheating. My policy is to study hard and associate with others who do the same. Who cares if others have to take shortcuts in order to make ends meet it's just going to burn them later on. G'luck to ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black mamba View Post
    hi everyone, i have a acceptance offer to attend mua. however i was wondering if anyone can offer any insight to my situation.

    in undergrad i slid by thru the help of friends & knowing important ppl* (corrupt TA's). i did well in courses mainly because i had an advantage whether it be a previous tests, assignments or reports from upperclassmen & TAs that were not normally distributed out. And often times the material tested was often very similar or the exact same to the material i had been given. this had allowed me to do well in courses as a result. also most of my elective courses outside of bio or chem, i chose in upper yrs were bird easy courses that padded my gpa. many of the electives i got 4.0s. this is why my prereqs were around 3.0, and my overall was a 3.4.

    however this has me concerned as to whether i will be able to handle the rigours when on nevis. because not many ppl had an advantage like i did. any insight would be useful....also if anybody could suggest pre-studying tips, etc.. I would appreciate that.
    First of all, you have to be honest with yourself and ask yourself the question AM I WORTHY!! There will be no handouts in med school. It requires hardwork and some working neurons. Remember physicians have to be ethical if you can't be ethical consider Law School.

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    First off, I'm impressed at your honest reflection of your undergraduate experience and considering how it will impact your future studies in medicine.

    When reading your post, I'm not sure what question(s) you are trying to ask. It is apparent that your ability to study and do well on tests is not reflective in the grades you obtained. Who knows how you will do in medical school; I would say the odds are against you. Personally, I wouldn't risk using medical school to develop your essential study skills, you need to start day one in medical school with those skills. medical school is very expensive and failing could result in the end of any real further opportunities to become a physician.

    In regards to asking for prestudy tips; I'm not sure anything written in a forum will suddenly compensate for not developing study skills during your undergrad years.

    I do have a question for you; what caused you reflect on your prior performance and how it will impact you in medical school?


    Quote Originally Posted by black mamba View Post
    hi everyone, i have a acceptance offer to attend mua. however i was wondering if anyone can offer any insight to my situation.

    in undergrad i slid by thru the help of friends & knowing important ppl* (corrupt TA's). i did well in courses mainly because i had an advantage whether it be a previous tests, assignments or reports from upperclassmen & TAs that were not normally distributed out. And often times the material tested was often very similar or the exact same to the material i had been given. this had allowed me to do well in courses as a result. also most of my elective courses outside of bio or chem, i chose in upper yrs were bird easy courses that padded my gpa. many of the electives i got 4.0s. this is why my prereqs were around 3.0, and my overall was a 3.4.

    however this has me concerned as to whether i will be able to handle the rigours when on nevis. because not many ppl had an advantage like i did. any insight would be useful....also if anybody could suggest pre-studying tips, etc.. I would appreciate that.

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    don1,

    well obviously I know short cuts in med school are only going to bite you in the behind for the board exams....I know I have cut corners, however i still have that burning desire to become a physician like all of you. and i believe i can do this, however the current students would know this best, & they can attest to weaker students getting weeded out. I dont want to become a lousy statistic. No one wants to get weeded out, but this is reality, only about half of each initial class make it thru the end w/o failing. and the others fall behind a semester or 2, or transfer to other schools.

    As for prestudying I feel it would be beneficial for someone like me to review physio & anatomy from undergrad to get in the rhythm of things, of course there is tonnes of studying to be done there...it would be good to familiarize with concepts in the mean time.

    Other than my shadyesque' undergrad results, my Mcat results were also poor because of verbal section...this is the main thing keeping me from applying to schools here...i cant get above 5 if my life depended on it.

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    if you have time, take an anat/physio class at a university. audit, if you must, but i suggest you opt for the grade.

    or, get a copy of guyton's physiology and start reading.

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    I am going to call a "ringer". I think you are a current student speaking out about what has become a real problem across society, not just MUA or any other professional school. "Do what you have to do to get what you want".

    Having said that, you are absolutely correct. Even the Dean commented on that during his speech at the "white coat" ceremony. MUA is on the hunt for these people!

    If your story is true, you will undoubtedly end up with 60,000 USD of debt at the end of the basic sciences, and the inability to pass the USMLE. If all you want is a MD behind your name to improve your social status, go somewhere else.

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