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    Can I practice in California after board certification w/o being on "california list"

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    Can I practice in California after board certification if my University is NOT on the "california Approved list" (but not disapproved)?

    I am sorry if this a silly or a repetitive qs, but i honestly searched about it but cudnt find straight, simple & to-the-point info on the California list issue..

    I'm from a Caribbean Uni which is not on the Cali approved list yet..

    1. can i do externships/observerships in CA before starting residency elsewhere?

    2. Can i work and practice in CA after being board certified post residency in another state?

    That's all the basic qs I had..

    Please help out if you have any concrete info on the above.. would be even more grateful if you could provide links to source of info..

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    Tipton nailed it. As it stands right now no students of schools not on the approved list can rotate/observe/practice in CA. This includes the reciprocity clause. Unfortunately CA doesn't agree physicians who completed at least 4yrs medical education with two years of US clinical clerkships(same as US students) in US hospitals, then completed minimum of 3 years in residency in US hospitals, and passed all steps of the US Medical Licensing Exam, and obtained board certification within their respective specialty are qualified to practice there simply because they spent the first 1.5yrs of their medical education (basic sciences where you learn from your textbooks) overseas in a classroom instead of stateside in a classroom.

    Sorry for the rant but no, not even after board certification and licensure in another state will you be able to practice in CA. Although I think its absolutely ridiculous an hypocritical considering the fact that US grads are allowed to practice in California WITHOUT board certification, its somewhat okay by me because I never want to practice there anyway.

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by houmd Hidden Content
    Tipton nailed it. As it stands right now no students of schools not on the approved list can rotate/observe/practice in CA. This includes the reciprocity clause. Unfortunately CA doesn't agree physicians who completed at least 4yrs medical education with two years of US clinical clerkships(same as US students) in US hospitals, then completed minimum of 3 years in residency in US hospitals, and passed all steps of the US Medical Licensing Exam, and obtained board certification within their respective specialty are qualified to practice there simply because they spent the first 1.5yrs of their medical education (basic sciences where you learn from your textbooks) overseas in a classroom instead of stateside in a classroom.

    Sorry for the rant but no, not even after board certification and licensure in another state will you be able to practice in CA. Although I think its absolutely ridiculous an hypocritical considering the fact that US grads are allowed to practice in California WITHOUT board certification, its somewhat okay by me because I never want to practice there anyway.
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    also, check with VA about California. Since many of their programs are community based if you aren't licensed in California they won't hire you.
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    thanks for your reply tipton.. tho im terribly disappointed with the answer..

    i have another qs..

    what if my university gains approval for the California list in a few years' time, after I have graduated, would I be allowed to practice in CA..? considering that my year of graduation is before they approved it?

    I am just trying to think positive.. find the silver lining through all the grey clouds..

    Thanks for all your replies guys..!!

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    It is my understanding that prior grads are only approved for CA licensing IFF the school receives that "grandfather clause" Tipton mentioned with SABA (which was also granted to Jagiellonian in Poland). If they don't grandfather you in as an earlier grad of the program, then you're not allowed to practice there.

    Also, note that if you took any of your medical studies at any medical school that is not CA-approved, you are shoot-out-of-luck, as well.

    Sarcdoc also makes a fine point about the Fed offering more physician jobs than just the VA... hmmmm, are you thinking of being a physician for the FMF at 29 Stumps, Sarcdoc? Hidden Content


    Hidden Content Originally Posted by pd85 Hidden Content
    thanks for your reply tipton.. tho im terribly disappointed with the answer..

    i have another qs..

    what if my university gains approval for the California list in a few years' time, after I have graduated, would I be allowed to practice in CA..? considering that my year of graduation is before they approved it?

    I am just trying to think positive.. find the silver lining through all the grey clouds..

    Thanks for all your replies guys..!!

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