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    State medical boards/foreign country lists of approved or disapproved schools

    State medical boards/foreign country lists of approved or disapproved schools and approved for clinicals
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    HOW TO CHECK TO SEE IF A SCHOOL IS RECOGNIZED BY ITS HOME COUNTRY:
    WHO list of recognized medical schools by country
    http://www.who.int/hrh/wdms/en/index.html
    FAIMER/IMED list of medical schools by region/country
    http://imed.ecfmg.org/search.asp
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    LIST OF STATE/COUNTRY MEDICAL BOARDs that approve or disapprove medical
    schools and list them
    Texas approved list (you don't have to supply additional documents for these schools)
    http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/professionals/physicians/applicants/STDNHPSE.rtf
    Kansas approved list
    KSBHA -
    North Dakota Disapproved list
    http://www.ndbomex.com/DisapprovedMedSchools.pdf
    California list of approved schools
    Welcome to the Medical Board of California - Medical Schools Recognized by the Medical Board of California
    California list of disapproved schools
    http://www.medbd.ca.gov/applicant/sc...napproved.html
    Indiana list of disapproved medical schools
    http://www.in.gov/pla/bandc /mlbi/instinfo.html
    Alabama list of schools that require additional documentation
    http://www.albme.org/Default.aspx?Page=PysicianApplication
    Oregon List of disapproved schools (some medical in list)
    http://www.ossc.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html
    Michigan list of disapproved schools (some medical in list)
    www.michigan.gov/documents/Non-accreditedSchools_78090_7.pdf

    Singapore list of approved foreign medical schools
    http://www.getforme.com/previous2003...andMS_more.htm

    UK list of unacceptable medical qualifications
    http://www.gmc-uk.org/education/unde...uate_level.asp

    Malaysia list of approved offshore medical schools
    http://www.mma.org.my/info/recognised_colleges.htm

    US Dept of Ed approved accreditation agencies
    http://www.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/ncfmea.html
    Pakistan list of medical schools with deficiencies
    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_25-11-2003_pg7_36
    Mexican agency that approves medical schools and maintains a list
    http://www.comaem.org.mx/
    UK article on medical education with data on some schools status in terms of recognition
    http://www.gmc-uk.org/education/undergraduate/studying _medicine_at_undergraduate_level.asp
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    LIST OF APPROVED SCHOOLS FOR CLINICALS:
    Florida Commission on Independent Education which approves offshore medical schools to do clinicals in Florida
    http://www.firn.edu/doe/cie/
    NY list of schools qualified to do more than 12 weeks of clinical training
    http://www.op.nysed.gov/medforms.htm

    LIST OF OFFSHORE MEDICAL REGULATORY AGENCIES
    IAMRA

    GMC List of regulatory agencies to check validity of medical schools
    http://webcache.gmc-uk.org/cgs/cgsIndex.jsp
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    so what gives them the right to verify the grades or proctor exams if they are not representatives of tyhe school?

    it doesn't matter anyeay because the 'set up' as you say it that is a contract between the student and the mentor is the core of the problem.. i can get a friend of mine to 'mentor' me and not show up and wonderously get 100% on every single test...maybe take the online exams open book, or discuss with the mentor while answering?
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    The mentors only evaluate the student

    The mentors only evaluate and coach the student, and the school ultimately grades them. Following your logics of who gives a right to proctor exams, PROMETIRCS or SYLVAN administers the USMLE and are NOT representatives of the ECFMG. You follow now?

    I agree with the set-up issue, nobody is guaranteeing quality assurance much less quality control.




    Quote Originally Posted by rrod
    so what gives them the right to verify the grades or proctor exams if they are not representatives of tyhe school?

    it doesn't matter anyeay because the 'set up' as you say it that is a contract between the student and the mentor is the core of the problem.. i can get a friend of mine to 'mentor' me and not show up and wonderously get 100% on every single test...maybe take the online exams open book, or discuss with the mentor while answering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genossa maximillian
    The mentors only evaluate and coach the student, and the school ultimately grades them. Following your logics of who gives a right to proctor exams, PROMETIRCS or SYLVAN administers the USMLE and are NOT representatives of the ECFMG. You follow now?

    I agree with the set-up issue, nobody is guaranteeing quality assurance much less quality control.
    there is a real difference. prometric and sylvan are contracted by the medical boards to oversee the process, the student is not involved where as in the metor arrangement, it is the student that is contracting his teacher...

    in your scenario i could go out and contract a prometric site to proctor my exam...maybe i can make sure my brother runs the place and my uncle sends my exam in?
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    Well

    "maybe i can make sure my brother runs the place and my uncle sends my exam in?[/quote]"

    Rumors in another thread is that is what is going on in India, check the thread out, under Cheating on the USMLE in the Relaxing Lounge.

    Back to our subject, no matter how bad you want to prove that the school has presence by having students retain independently a mentor of his own choice under his own schedule under his own terms being paid by the student and not the school, non of your arguments is substantive. The mentor must be an employee of the school, unequivocaly, not just someone that the student got to coach him on his own.

    "the student is not involved where as in the metor arrangement, it is the student that is contracting his teacher..." You just said it. You see?




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    but the mentor is in charge of grading.... i guess we both have points but fact still is that quality assurance is a big if.
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    Yep, big quality assurance issues...

    ....reason why these sort of programs are so unpopular among state licensing boards.




    Quote Originally Posted by rrod
    but the mentor is in charge of grading.... i guess we both have points but fact still is that quality assurance is a big if.

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    hi if anybody can help me to give more information about state medical board in puerto in english and what are its requirement , thanks in advance
    samcho22@hotmail.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam2000 View Post
    hi if anybody can help me to give more information about state medical board in puerto in english and what are its requirement , thanks in advance
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    Board of Medical Examiners of Puerto Rico
    Pablo Valentin-Torres, Esq., Executive Director
    P.O. Box 13969
    San Juan, PR 00908
    (787) 782-8937 / Fax787) 706-0304

    I suggest you contact them.

    note I saw this article also

    Physician - Doctor License Service, MedLicense.com licensing physicians seeking a Puerto Rico Medical license with the Puerto Rico Medical Board
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    Bright side

    Look at the bright side Oceania students, apparently the government of Samoa will allow graduates of Oceania to attend a 1 year internship and receive licensure in Samoa upon completion.

    There you go!! You can live the dream of being a fully licensed general practitioner in Samoa.

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    california state medical license....help please

    hi,i graduated from a medical school from pakistan (karachi medical and dental coll)and it is affiliated by WHO,but as i was going thru the list of med.schoos that state of california recognize i could not see my school name on any of the list(listed and delisted )schools.
    my qs is that what r the steps to get recognition of schiool by the california board as i have got very little time left to apply.
    thanks.

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