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    Visa's given will drop from 195,000 to 65,000 per year in the US

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    Call me a selfish jerk, but this seems like it will help USIMG's have an easier time getting residency. It might reduce the competition between USIMG's and foriegn IMG's.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/09/22...eut/index.html

    U.S. to sharply cut number of high-tech visasTuesday, September 23, 2003 Posted: 0328 GMT (11:28 AM HKT)

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The United States is about to cut the number of employment visas it offers to highly qualified foreign workers from 195,000 to 65,000, immigration experts said Monday.

    Unless Congress acts by the end of this month -- and there is little sign it will do so -- the change will automatically take effect on Oct. 1. Employers, especially technology companies, argue the move will hurt them and the economy.

    The change will affect the number of H1-B visas that can be issued each fiscal year. The visas are mostly used to bring high-tech experts from Asia, especially from the Indian sub-continent, to work in the United States for up to three years.

    "The fact that Congress doesn't seem anxious to act reflects the political climate, with a lack of jobs for Americans," said New York immigration lawyer Cyrus Mehta.

    "The pressure to change the limit will build up again when the economy picks up."

    The Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on the issue last week. Republican chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah noted that many U.S. high-tech workers are unemployed and the committee needed to find ways of helping them without hurting the country's ability to compete globally.

    Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy said: "Given the weakness of our current economy, and the rising unemployment we have experienced under President Bush's stewardship, many who supported the increase in 2000 now believe that 65,000 visas are sufficient."

    But Patrick Duffy, Human Resources Attorney for Intel Corporation, said finding the best-educated engineering talent from around the world was critical to his company's future.

    "We expect that we will continue to sponsor H-1B employees in the future for the simple reason that we cannot find enough U.S. workers with the advanced education, skills, and expertise we need," he said.

    Elizabeth Richardson, director of immigration services for the Ingersoll-Rand Company, speaking on behalf of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said: "In the near-term, we simply must have access to foreign nationals. Many of them have been educated in the United States. By sending them home, we are at best sending them to our own foreign plant sites, and at worst to our competitors."

    Immigration attorneys expect the new rules to set off a scramble by companies to fill their slots early before the ceiling is reached. How quickly that happens depends on the state of the economy, they said.
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    well

    bad news for canadians right
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    Re: Well

    FF, I thought Canadians didn't need an H1-B Visa because we are all considered part of the same system?

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    re: WHAT>!?!(@

    WHOAH!!!!!

    This sounds like it's going to mess with Canadians a great deal!!!

    As far as I know the majority of canadian IMG's in USA doing their residence are there on an H1-B.

    Since I haven't even started med. school yet, I won't have to face it for a while, but this sounds quite crappy. Maybe the government will have to change this legislation if/when the economy suffers. I know this sounds like it's a good idea for US citizens, but I still question it.......

    Cheers,

    Silenthunder

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    Re: Well

    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteUni
    FF, I thought Canadians didn't need an H1-B Visa because we are all considered part of the same system?
    No, that is wrong. Canadians still need a H1B or J1 visa.

    But, somewhere I had read said that a MD applying for a H1B via a teaching/educational hospital will not be considered as part of the cap. Perhaps that is changed with new cap? (Darn, I cant find the source, I should had bookmarked that site.)

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    Good...

    I am an American IMG. I'm am not ethnocentric nor racist by any means, yet I believe an American IMG should ALWAYS be picked over a true IMG. It should be a common sense thing.

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    Re: Well

    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteUni
    FF, I thought Canadians didn't need an H1-B Visa because we are all considered part of the same system?
    i guess that was answered for me

    I am an American IMG. I'm am not ethnocentric nor racist by any means, yet I believe an American IMG should ALWAYS be picked over a true IMG. It should be a common sense thing.
    i agree, every country picks mostly its own people, every state picks most of its own people..every person picks his own nose
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    Re: Well

    i agree, every country picks mostly its own people, every state picks most of its own people..every person picks his own nose :lol
    Unless the country you're speaking about is Canada.

    Canada's legislation is so messed up it seems to actually work AGAINST
    CanadianIMGs. Someone I met used the argument that if programs were found to be pulling for Canadian citizens above true IMGs, then they would be committing human rights violations.

    I still don't understand why it doesn't work like USA;

    Any other Canadians want to clue me in if I'm wrong here?

    (I do realise there are ways you can get certain friends/relatives etc. to pull some strings for you in Canada; but I'm referring to situations where this kind of thing isn't happening)

    Cheers all

    Silenthunder

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    H1b

    your not selfish because the truth about H1b is that the physicians applying for it are exempt from the cap because a hospital is a educationaly facility..so a learning or educational facility is exempt from the cap....so actually foreing IMG applying for H1b is stilll ok ..dont worry I asked a lawyer about this today..actually had to pay to ask him this

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    Re: Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Silenthunder
    i agree, every country picks mostly its own people, every state picks most of its own people..every person picks his own nose :lol
    Unless the country you're speaking about is Canada.

    Canada's legislation is so messed up it seems to actually work AGAINST
    CanadianIMGs. Someone I met used the argument that if programs were found to be pulling for Canadian citizens above true IMGs, then they would be committing human rights violations.

    I still don't understand why it doesn't work like USA;

    Any other Canadians want to clue me in if I'm wrong here?

    (I do realise there are ways you can get certain friends/relatives etc. to pull some strings for you in Canada; but I'm referring to situations where this kind of thing isn't happening)

    Cheers all

    Silenthunder
    That's what happens when you have a liberal idiot like Cretian run your country. Political Correctness to the point where it discriminates against the majority. Canada is sadly following in the steps of the UK and France in that regard.


    I know this isn't a politics forum. For some reason I just felt compelled to post that.

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