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    Authenticity of American Medical Schools (Caribbean)

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    Hey!

    I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me figure out if these carribean MD universities I'm looking into are:

    American International School of Medicine
    St. James School of Medicine
    St. Martinus University
    Spartan Health Sciences University

    Please advise me on how credible it would be to do an Caribbean MD through these universities. Could you rank them if possible?

    Could anyone also speak to transferrings? I'm a Canadian Citizen and I would like to know if within the first or second semester I would perhaps be able to transfer over to a canadian med school or not? If I just complete the 2 years there what are the chances of me getting a canadian residency?

    Thank you!

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    As per the "credibility", it depends from which point of view.
    Yes, they are for most of them established and recognized schools (I know more about Spartan and St.James though).
    You will earn an MD and will be permitted to sit for the USMLEs, you'll be eligible for residency in the US (probability for Canada is much more lower).

    Now, from a Canadian/US point of view it's another story. There's always the "offshore school" stigma. Although I must admit, as a medical student I never felt personally that stigma from north american physicians and residents. They always treated me like a member of their community. Ironically, the only bad comments and insults I saw came from some premed students (those who never put a foot in a med school but still make fun of real med students and MDs).

    Could anyone also speak to transferrings? I'm a Canadian Citizen and I would like to know if within the first or second semester I would perhaps be able to transfer over to a canadian med school or not?
    I hate the word "impossible", which is also counter scientific.
    But as far as I know nobody has been able to achieve that in Canada.
    I've heard of one guy in the states, and that's it.

    You have to understand the fact that Canada is very elitist regarding the medical education (and Quebec is even more elitist on that)...so if you earned your MD outside Canada or the states, most of the canadian universities won't even recognize it academically. You'll can still enter residency programs however..it.'s a different story. But universities themselves will spit on your diploma.
    I know a physician from Asia who came in Canada: not only the university refused to recognize his md...but he had to start back in Premed (chem 1, bio 1 etc).

    If I just complete the 2 years there what are the chances of me getting a canadian residency?
    As said, it's near impossible to split your MD from an offshore school to a Canadian/US school.
    And, no matter how you did it, your diploma will be considered as a whole...so the med school name on it and that's it.

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    Good afternoon,

    I am a graduate from the American University of Antigua College of Medicine and currently practicing as a Pathology Resident in the Northeastern US. While I was in AUA-COM I noticed many students transferred here from St. James, AISM, and St. Martinus University. I would say that maybe you can consider AUA because they took accept many Canadian students as well as US and other international students.

    I chose AUA because I saw a lot of potential in this school. The faculty here are very professional in both the admissions and academic settings. Prior to applying, I never reviewed any blogs or social networks. Rather, I reviewed the school through their websites and reviewing their credibility in terms of residency placements, accreditation with both the US and Caribbean education systems, and recognition with many hospital sites. AUA is also affiliated with Florida International University (FIU) Global MD Program where students can learn about global health awareness, epidemiology, and bio-statistics, which can enhance your application and chances in landing a great residency. The transition from the Caribbean education setting to rotations is very smooth, and the administrators will make sure you are in the rotation settings you wish to participate in. The administrators will also help students secure residency spots they wish, for Canadians, US, and international students. The faculty will help with writing personal statements, editing the academic dean's letter, and many others. For students who do not land a residency the first time, the school will research any openings for volunteer work/internships/research opportunities for students in the hopes that they will land a residency during the next round. I have met many Canadian students from AUA who have had no issues with landing a residency in the US and I have met others who are practicing in Canada.

    Hope this helps.

    I can also say this:
    It does not matter about getting an MD from the Caribbean school because residency program directors only consider the USMLE scores, extra-curricular activities, dean's letter, and recommendation letters. However, you want to explore all options in the best medical school that works for you, as I have done. I chose AUA as I mentioned before, after knowing that the school has evolved over the years and is continuing to grow to promote the best education for students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey1 View Post

    It does not matter about getting an MD from the Caribbean school because residency program directors only consider the USMLE scores, extra-curricular activities, dean's letter, and recommendation letters. .
    I do not agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantoaxial View Post
    As per the "credibility", it depends from which point of view.
    Yes, they are for most of them established and recognized schools (I know more about Spartan and St.James though).
    You will earn an MD and will be permitted to sit for the USMLEs, you'll be eligible for residency in the US (probability for Canada is much more lower).
    In terms of credibility, I was talking about them being a legitimate Medical school versus a scamming school. I have heard some horror stories of people going for MD programs and spending lots of money and at the end finding out the university is fraudulent. I just wanted to avoid that and make sure that these are in fact credible universities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMmEss View Post
    In terms of credibility, I was talking about them being a legitimate Medical school versus a scamming school. I have heard some horror stories of people going for MD programs and spending lots of money and at the end finding out the university is fraudulent. I just wanted to avoid that and make sure that these are in fact credible universities.
    Well a pure scam...in the sense of selling a false product or a dummy diploma... no (I don't know AISM though).
    At least not for St.James, St.Martinus, and Spartan. Sure it exists however.

    Offshore med schools are all private businesses. And like any business they might have very questionable practices to make more money. Probably not very different from your cellphone carrier for instance.
    I think that's where some students may feel cheated.
    Most of us come from big north american universities. So it's like counter-intuitive to imagine a med school putting some traps to get more money from us.
    You can then understand why some students come back here on the forum and claim their school is a fraud.

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    Hey, I would suggest St. James, and Spartan Health as they are accredited. I can't comment on the other schools. I haven't heard much about them. As well, it is not possible to transfer into a Canadian medical school, you'd have to start back at year 1 if you did get accepted to a school. Most Canadian citizens take the USMLEs in addition to the Canadian exams if they go to a university abroad because they will have a higher chance of landing a residency somewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMmEss View Post
    Hey!

    I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me figure out if these carribean MD universities I'm looking into are:

    American International School of Medicine
    St. James School of Medicine
    St. Martinus University
    Spartan Health Sciences University

    Please advise me on how credible it would be to do an Caribbean MD through these universities. Could you rank them if possible?

    Could anyone also speak to transferrings? I'm a Canadian Citizen and I would like to know if within the first or second semester I would perhaps be able to transfer over to a canadian med school or not? If I just complete the 2 years there what are the chances of me getting a canadian residency?

    Thank you!

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